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Military brass is slightly harder than commercial brass. A "must" as military ammo is subject to rough handling.

Military brass is slightly thicker, not because of the charge, but again to help resist deformation as a result of rough handling. This difference will result in different chamber pressures as a result of a SLIGHTLY reduced case capacity.

The... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (eb in oregon) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/194856 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:31:54 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/193589/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-193589 Found out I was overlooking a major factor.
It was there all the time and I just didn't pay it much attention.
The difference in the cases and the load have been discussed at length. I paid a lot of attention to that.
What I did not pay attention to was the fact of the difference not only in chamber dia. size, but also in length.
One source I read... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (shotout) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/193589 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:08:30 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/191676/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-191676 feeds@yuku.com (dutchmills) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/191676 Tue, 19 May 2009 10:36:38 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/191566/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-191566 feeds@yuku.com (Skeyed) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/191566 Sun, 17 May 2009 16:20:37 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/191553/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-191553 feeds@yuku.com (dutchmills) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/191553 Sun, 17 May 2009 11:31:05 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/191521/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-191521 I can say this.
The regular Remington factory loads of 308 I fired in my Gibbs. The fired cases would not go into the sizing die.
On the other hand, the Remington Managed recoil cases were neck sized several, 6 to 7 times with starting loads with no signs of anything except growing too long. Full length sized and have fired some of those 3 to 4 times and not through with this batch of cases yet.

I have... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Skeyed) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/191521 Sat, 16 May 2009 14:07:00 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/190372/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-190372 http://milsurpshooter.net/forums/70
]]> feeds@yuku.com (nothernug) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/190372 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:50:22 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/188593/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-188593 feeds@yuku.com (dutchmills) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/188593 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:40:00 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/188502/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-188502
'holic ]]> feeds@yuku.com (akitaholic) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/188502 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:33:15 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/188469/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-188469 The main difference between the two that anyone is really sure of , which we should be concerned with, is the thickness of the case wall, compared
to which chamber, with what load it is used.

Yes, the chamber difference.
But remember, the case thickness and the different result is less capacity for the nato case.
Also, I am against any substitute from another cal.
The loading manual,s warn strongly against it.
Notice, in the 2nd Edition of... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Skeyed) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/188469 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:59:59 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/188450/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-188450
'holic ]]> feeds@yuku.com (akitaholic) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/188450 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:05:25 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/188442/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-188442 feeds@yuku.com (Tenring36) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/188442 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:17:32 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/188392/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-188392 I have loaded seven times with "starting" loads before having to full length re size.
I did fire 5 rounds of factory 308, a complete down right no-no, with my 2A1 gibbs.
So I never did or never will use 308 commercial loads in my un molested 2A1.
The gibbs is still ok but I had to scrap the cases after the first firing.

( Do not) try commercial... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Skeyed) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/188392 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:12:10 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/188391/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-188391 I'm sure they will easily handle larger charges.

I reload with Lee .308 full length sizing die set. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (doug henry) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/188391 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:58:33 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/reply/188383/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html#reply-188383 feeds@yuku.com (jwr747) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/sreply/188383 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:34:10 GMT http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/topic/32363/t/Need-Help-in-Loading-for-an-Ishy-2A.html feeds@yuku.com (Tenring36) http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/topic/32363 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:52:30 GMT