Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (eb in oregon) — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:09:57 GMT

Chief Oshkosh,

I think one of the most misused words in collecting today is "pristine." Which means; 1.Unspoiled; in its original state.

There are those that take the meaning of "pristine" to mean that it is untouched since manufacture. So it's "original rust," "dirt," "cosmoline," numerous collected dings and dents, etc, etc is/are still "intact." Hence it is pristine and more valuable. I believe this view to...

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (MasterChief) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:14:52 GMT

Eric, my bro'. How you doing? I will look tomorrow for the product you recommend. If necessary I'll bead-blast the durn thing. Just kidding. I think I can restore the metal to a patinated finish with speckling and pitting. The wood is in fairly good condition, only missing the hand guard. BTW it's a 1909 Peruvian which I haven't bought yet. Part of a two-fer with a 1909 Argentine in a similar rusty state. I have some pictures of the Argintine which I'll post here. Best...

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (eb in oregon) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:12:08 GMT

Yo, Dave!

You might try this before the steel wool. While others have good luck with steel wool, I avoid it like the plague.

I think I may have mentioned this before in another thread, but if you go to your local super market, they will have Scotchbrite stainless steel scrubbing pads. Be careful here as there are several grades and the course stuff is to be avoided. The correct pad looks like a bunch of very fine stainless steel springs and the material is only a few...

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (MasterChief) — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:30:51 GMT

Thanks, Chief. I hope when the witch-hunters catch me I can be burned alongside someone like you. I am going to use the methods you describe and have done so before. I believe I can improve the condition of this specimen without making it seem refurbished. My winter project. Dave C.

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (Chief Oshkosh) — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:39:10 GMT

Totally dis-assemble. Clean all that powdery looking crap off of it with a toothbrush and WD 40, which has penetrating quality. Let the WD 40 soak in first. Wipe clean. Then, cover the parts with some oil - gun oil OK, but it isn't critical. Then lightly brush over the oiled surface with 0000 steel wool. When the pad gets dirty go to a clean one. Purists would say use bronze wool but you'll have to get this from Brownells. Bronze is softer than steel. Don't rub to such an extent...

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (MasterChief) — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:56:04 GMT

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (Chief Oshkosh) — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:57:20 GMT

I just bought a 1955 Ford Crown Victoria with the Landau roof and classic black and pink colors. Most of you won't know what this is unless you're in a geriatric way. The problem is that the paint job is horrible, there is rust and dents, holes all over the body, can't get original 2-ply tires, original seats are shot, can only get after-market parts, etc. Should I (1) keep it in this deplorable condition with all the 'pristine' rust on the body, highly degraded...

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (rno172) — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:49:31 GMT

Way I look at it, I'm rescuing precious antiques for the next generation of our family from the clutches of clueless collage students and the forces of "Bubba."

But then again I'm not going to be teaching my 13 year old nephew how to shoot with my 1916 origional condition sweed.........He's getting a Turk Mauser first.

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (eb in oregon) — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:14:27 GMT

What up, Master Chief? Long time no see.

eb

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (MasterChief) — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:56:36 GMT

Skywarp thank you sincerely for your thoughtful post and for bumping this thread. I admit when I first started this thread it was a "slow news" day and I also wanted to make this point: you can put me on the list.

My real point is contained in the quotation: Like the person quoted, I also believe it is possible to reproduce an original-appearing wood finish which even the master collectors would have trouble detecting.

Before my shipmates and others...

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (skywarp989) — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:40:42 GMT

Thought I'd chime in here, as I was involved in that other discussion, too.

To be fair to the poster of that excerpt, it is taken somewhat out of contest. The guns in question there were Finnish rifles, and rather highly collectible ones at that. As much as I love my meager collection, there is a difference in "valuable collectibles" and the more common rifles that make up most of my arsenal. Yugo M48s and refurbed 91/30s are a very different story than some of the...

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (beanstrung) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:53:44 GMT

Sheep? We ain't scared of no sheep.

I just so happen to be working on a project of feeding machine-shop shavings mixed with activated charcoal to sheep, in an effort to produce "environmentally green" steel-wool. Once I figure out how to calibrate the sheep's folicles to 0000 diameter, I'll send some around to all the members to use in "violating" their old stocks.

I got some good information off of these YouTube links, from a similar...

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (nothernug) — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:36:34 GMT

Cosmolene is not an "original finish." In the case of Yugo mausers, they washed the things with harsh chemicals and recosmo'ed them every 5 years. What 'original' finish? Besides, on rifles used in the field the Yugos used old motor oil as a clear. Seen those really dark stocks? Wanna bet what the 'original finish' was???

Vet bring back K98. Stored in the basement for 60 years. Finish of...

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (Carl Gustav) — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:14:30 GMT

What are you supposed to do with a Russian 91/30 when half the shellac has flaked off and the rest is about to? I've cleaned and reapplied shellac to those without any guilt. Carl

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (Cabinetman) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:14:30 GMT

MC, that's an interesting take on the subject to be sure. I'm glad his words weren't here at Parallax as I'd feel that I'd failed to state the purpose of this forum clearly enough for him to understand. He sounds like one of those critics who bashes someone for their performance without actually seeing it or hearing what was said. If he spent any time here reading the essays or following the threads, I would hope he would have a different opinion. Oh well, we...

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (mh47) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:59:28 GMT

Hmmm, I've put a lot of effort into removing cosmoline from various stocks, mainly so my hands don't stick to them....better add me to the watch list.....

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (eb in oregon) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:44:41 GMT

There is room for all of us, and one persons "JUNK" is another persons "TREASURE."

I still find it curious though how "repair" is seen by some as "destruction" or worse "fraud."

Re: Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (Crunch130) — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:48:47 GMT

Dave,

You didn't sell that awesome-looking VZ-24, did you? 8~) I still remember the pictures.

Crunch

Parallax: where men are men and the sheep are scared.

feeds@yuku.com (MasterChief) — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:49:44 GMT

From a Senior Member of another forum (not Parallax):

"One of the few redeeming qualities of these recurring stock threads is it allows me to expand the list of people to apply extra scrutiny to if I ever wanted to buy a collectible gun from them. Their views on refinishing-maintenance-preserving-enhancing-repairing-supplementing and whatever other favorite words they may have for screwing with stock finishes, indicates a higher liklihood that the stock on any particular WTS...