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        <![CDATA[ I had this in the Military History forum for a few days but no responses, more traffic here I&#39;m sure. Still curious on this tidbit.

&gt;&gt;&gt;

 I was watching my old &quot;Tour of Duty&quot; VHS tapes from the 80&#39;s last night, and found myself stumped on a question.


During the war, did the VC &amp; NVA use mostly the steel cased 7.62x39, like what has been on the market the last several years, or was there a lot of brass
cased, Berdan primed ammo in use? Chinese made possibly?... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Vietcong/NVA ammo ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;ve heard of this before, something about some of the 7.62x54r made in Czechoslovakia containing TNT instead of cordite so it would destroy Soviet
MG&#39;s and maybe take the gunner with it. Apparently during the Czech revolution of 1967(?)  when the current S&amp;B plant was making ammo for the Soviets
there was some speculation of sabotaged rounds, although I don&#39;t believe any was ever found.
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<br>
I have heard of doctored hand grenades in Vietnam, our guys would cut the fuses... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Colin, good advice, there was a recent article about this in &quot;American Rifleman&quot;.
<br>
<br>
Edit:
<br>
Colin, the article was in the May, 2008 issue, titled &quot;Wreaking Havoc One Round At A Time&quot; authored by Major John L. Plaster. The program was called
Project Eldest Son. The article states that the AKM and AK ammo operated at a cp of 45,000 psi and the doctored ammo generated a cp of 250,000 psi. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Incidentally, it&#39;s not a good idea to fire 7.62X39 left over from Vietnam. Both sides &#39;salted&#39; it, hoping the other side would pick up loose ammo
and fire it in their weapons. The &#39;salting&#39; amounted to pulling the bullet, dumping the powder, filling the case with C4 and reassembling the roundl
I&#39;ve seen a MACV circular on the subject, showing an AK 47 almost cut in half after firing one of these. It was found beside a dead VC with head wounds. ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Vietcong/NVA ammo ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">RichieRich3902 wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  This doesn&#39;t pertain to small arms ammunition, but I&#39;ve read in several histories that the NVA/VC units would often use US 81mm Morter rounds in
  Combloc 82mm tubes.
</blockquote>
<br>
That was true.  Also, size designations were not always accurate.  For instance, the US 106mm recoilless rifle actually fired a 105mm projectile.  It was
designated as 106mm so that the ammunition would not get mixed up... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Dang your question sure does make an old man know he has forgotten a very lot of things in his life. I &quot;think&quot; I remember copper washed steel bullets
but I will be the first to say I am not sure at all. Only time I saw any caches I was too busy counting body parts to make sure I had them all and was good to
go anywhere but where I presently was to be honest. I will be first to admit I was never a brave person! I just remember like a gold sort of ammo and for all I
knew then it could... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">RLMbassist wrote:</strong>
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  My boss tried to tell me that one (he knows everything), I told him he was full of it.
  <br>
  <br>
  A 5.56x45 won&#39;t even chamber in a 7.62x39, because the shoulder to case head distance is so much longer on a 5.56 than a 7.62; what you get is a
  cartridge that sticks out about 1/4&quot; from the opening of the chamber which wouldn&#39;t allow the weapon to go into battery, therefore, no bang. Myth... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ This doesn&#39;t pertain to small arms ammunition, but I&#39;ve read in several histories that the NVA/VC units would often use US 81mm Morter rounds in
Combloc 82mm tubes. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ My boss tried to tell me that one (he knows everything), I told him he was full of it.
<br>
<br>
A 5.56x45 won&#39;t even chamber in a 7.62x39, because the shoulder to case head distance is so much longer on a 5.56 than a 7.62; what you get is a cartridge
that sticks out about 1/4&quot; from the opening of the chamber which wouldn&#39;t allow the weapon to go into battery, therefore, no bang.  Myth dispelled.
<br>
<br>
Hey guys any ideas about the VC/NVA ammo??<img... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I have also heard that urban legend before. I never did believe it and I continue not to do so.
<br>
Curt ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">FLAPJACKHAPPY wrote:</strong>
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  I have been told by a couple of vets that the VC used U.S. 5.56 ammo in the AK 47 I was told it worked but a good way to kill yourself too. Is that true as
  well ? Just wondering..
</blockquote>
<br>
I think that&#39;s an old B.S. story. I&#39;ve heard it before, but I don&#39;t see how the AK would ever function.
<br> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">FLAPJACKHAPPY wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  I have been told by a couple of vets that the VC used U.S. 5.56 ammo in the AK 47 I was told it worked but a good way to kill yourself too. Is that true as
  well ? Just wondering..
</blockquote>Don&#39;t know how that could be; the 5.56 has a base diameter of .378&quot; and the 7.62x39 has a diameter of .447&quot; not to mention that
.224&quot; bullet rattling down that .311&quot; tube.  Do recall another rumor... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I have been told by a couple of vets that the VC used U.S. 5.56 ammo in the AK 47 I was told it worked but a good way to kill yourself too. Is that true as
well ? Just wondering.. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I know what you mean by the smell, but it was from brass-cased ammo.  A friend of mine brought some old Chicom 7.62x39 to the range one day.  It smelled real
strongly like rotten eggs. It did shoot more accurately than other ammo if I recall. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Saw your post in the MH Forum, and have been wracking what&#39;s left of my brain trying to conjure up any images.  Seems I saw steel cased ammo, that had a
foul odor when fired, but that could be memories from Africa as well.  Hopefully someone with more brain cells left will recall.  <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif">
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Tom
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			<description><![CDATA[ I had this in the Military History forum for a few days but no responses, more traffic here I&#39;m sure. Still curious on this tidbit.
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;
<br>
 I was watching my old &quot;Tour of Duty&quot; VHS tapes from the 80&#39;s last night, and found myself stumped on a question.
<br>
<br>
During the war, did the VC &amp; NVA use mostly the steel cased 7.62x39, like what has been on the market the last several years, or was there a lot of brass
cased, Berdan primed ammo in use? Chinese... ]]></description>

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