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mattypee	8mm mauser handloading	Lead	[-]
Posts: 16 (05/27/08 03:06 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I just had a few questions, I would like to start handloading for my m48-a, and i was wondering what powders, bullets/weights, primers and brass shells you guys would suggest. I have a hornady's 7th and my father in law game me his hornady 3rd edition. I could go by what they say in the books, just wondering if anyone has any diffrent ideas. I know for a fact I would like to hunt whitetail, and I heard 150 Spire point hornady would do quite well for deer.
WVchuck		#1	[-]
Posts: 10829 (05/27/08 05:49 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The brass is simple, whatever brand is the least expensive. Winchester Brass has been very reliable and easily reloadable for me over the years. I've had a few issues with Remington Brass, nothing major, but enough to want to avoid it for use in 7x57 and 7.92x57 handloading. Federal brass seems to be a little more thick/rigid/brittle (those are not the right words, but the only ones I can find in my brain to describe it) and more prone to have issues once you get it in the resizing die. CCI Large Rifle Primers IMR 3031, IMR 4064 and IMR 4350 have provided decent to very nice results using a Hornady 150 BTSP in several different Mausers, using starting loads up to mid level in the Lyman reloading Manual. I've got one load that is a great one in one M48A and only so-so in another, so each rifle has different preferences. Start at the minimum, work your way up slowly and carefully. Take notes, documment all steps as you go. EVentually, you'll find the load that suits your rifle the best.
mattypee		#2	[-]
Posts: 17 (05/28/08 01:27 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	thankyou
beanstrung		#3	[-]
Posts: 4486 (05/28/08 07:10 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'll "ditto" the Winchester brass, but I'll suggest Winchester large rifle primers instead of CCI. The Winchester primers are "softer" and easier to set off in a surplus Mauser, which may have a weak firing-pin spring. I only use IMR-4064, which works well in just about any bottlenecked centerfire rifle cartridge. For bullets, I've had good luck with the cheepie Remington 185gr. .323" Core-Lokt's. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
WVchuck		#4	[-]
Posts: 10831 (05/28/08 08:29 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	IMR 4350 has been pretty consistent with my M48A with the Iron Elite mount. With that load and rifle, I have the ultimate deer rifle for this part of the world! It was marginal with the other 48A, did OK with the 48, shot great with a few 98k's and a few 24/47's too.
mattypee		#5	[-]
Posts: 20 (05/31/08 04:59 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	what bullet weights would you suggest? Cuz I hear that the rifiling twist rate is in favor of the 198 grain bullets. Would hornady's 195 8x57 be over kill for whitetail here in wisconsin?
RBier		#6	[-]
Posts: 266 (05/31/08 06:01 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I have a load using 150 grain hornady bullets, remmeington brass, winchester primers and IMR 4064 that was absolutley outstainding in my 24/47 and nearly as good in my brothers K98. would tell you more but my load data vanished when my hard drive melted down. I can say that the load was stout though not at max. It shot to point of aim with the sights at the lowest (200 meters) setting at 100 meters, Did the same at 200 with the sights set to 300 meters. 150 grain bullets will work quite nicely on your whitetails. Last Edited By: RBier 05/31/08 06:03 PM. Edited 1 times.
WVchuck		#7	[-]
Posts: 10843 (05/31/08 08:21 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hornady 8mm Interlock .323 diameter 150 grain soft point. Item/Inventory # 3232. UPC Code 9025523232-5 It has a flat bottom and a cannelure. I crimp the bullet to the case. Use the data below at your own risk. I would start at the minimum and work up in .5 grain increments until you find the right load. Load up at least five, if not ten rounds to see how well things work. No sense cranking out 100 rounds only to find out that they sling the copper in a pattern instead of a group. 150 Grain bullets and the Lyman Manual: IMR 4350, 50 grains starting load, 56grains MAXIMUM. 50.5 grains have yielded very nice results at 100 yards. IMR 3031 44 grains starting load, 49 grains MAXIMUM 44.5 to 45.5 grains should give a nice accurate load. IMR 4064 48 grains starting load, 53grains MAXIMUM. 50 grains has given me a decent and reliable load.
NC Cruffler		#8	[-]
Posts: 220 (06/01/08 09:17 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yesterday I shot two one inch groups at 100 meters using: S&B case, trimmed & annealed Winchester WLR primers Remington 185 grain JSP VihtaVouri N140 48.7 grains and IMR 4064 47.5 grains. COAL: 2.95" Lee factory crimp This was through a 1942 KKale Turk 29" barrel with Mojo front & rear sights, shots spaced 90 seconds apart from a rest. Other loads using about the same charges were close but the deer flies started biting really bad and distracted me. Dave Dave Green, NRA Life Member since 1973
Hannamag65		#9	[-]
Posts: 2 (06/13/08 05:46 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	175 gr. Sierra Pro Hunter SP 48.5 gr. IMR 4064 (max is 49.0 gr., reduce your starting load by 10% and go from there) CCI #200 LR primers Privi Partizan or Winchester case ( I prefer Winchester ) Lee factory crimp This load is a "DO ALL" load in all of my Mausers ( 2 k98's, 2 24/47's...prints fantastic groups with all of them ). The 175 grain bullet seems to be the best compromise between power and speed falling in the dead middle between the 150 grainers and the 198 grain milsurp loads. If you want to use the 150 grain, I have found that the Sierra 150 gr. SP with the exact same components mentioned above work almost as well. Your C.O.A.L. is best determined by the rifle. The 175 grain load is an absoloutely AWESOME deer and hog load here in Texas where the average shot falls into the 80-150 yard range, I now use a 24/47 with a scout mount and 2-7x32 LER scope and is my primary hunting rifle with the above load, retiring a Rem. 700 .30-06.
Mountain Doctor		#10	[-]
Posts: 2550 (06/16/08 07:15 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I just wanted to say WELCOME to our forum! I don't visit the Yugo forum so I missed your introduction. Nice to have you around. Bill
Skeyed		#11	[-]
Posts: 3844 (06/16/08 08:41 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sorry WV Chuck, just had to do this. skd
mauserand9mm		#12	[-]
Posts: 1018 (06/16/08 10:50 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hey, we get those over here too! We call them Cane Toads.
WVchuck		#13	[-]
Posts: 10916 (06/18/08 01:25 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post
beanstrung		#14	[-]
Posts: 4525 (06/18/08 10:11 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Is that a "Bufo Marinus" ? Link: http://floridagardener.com/critters/BufoMarinus.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
mauserand9mm		#15	[-]
Posts: 1026 (06/19/08 07:39 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I believe it is! Not at all the "Wvo Chuckus"
Gun Toting Monkeyboy		#16	[-]
Posts: 446 (06/20/08 02:10 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Meanwhile, back on topic... I have found that I get the best results with 8mm mauser using bullets in the 170-180 grain range. If you are just working on a load for that one gun, get 2-3 kinds of bullets in the weight range you want, and experiment with them. Try each with a few different powder charges, and see what gets you the best accuracy. As for if it is enough gun, deer nomally don't have ablative ceramic plates under their skin. Even the anemic US factory loads will drop them in their tracks. The key thing is finding a decent load that works in your gun. And you may find that your best load is not always the one with the most powder behind it. Once you get something that works, practice, practice, practice. That plays a far more important role in successful hunting than having a max load with the latest premium bullet. -Mb oh, one last thing. Get one brand of primer, and stick with it. That is one less thing to cause variations in your loads experimentation. I like Winchester simply because it has proved reliable for me. And I can ALWAYS find it in stock at the local toy store. The same can't be said for some of the other brands in my area.
HORSEMAN1		#17	[-]
Posts: 758 (06/22/08 09:17 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I loaded up Rem 185 gr and IMR 4064, the combo did a good job on a PA 7point whitetail last yr for my cousin I wanted him to let me know how they shot well he never did try it on paper first . Luckly he did well with it 1 shot a 60 yds put him right down
SNEAKY PETE	????What about Good Old IMR 4895????	#18	[-]
Posts: 73 (07/03/08 06:49 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Old Sneaky here: Here it is guys--right out of the Sierra Reloading manual>>>8X57mm(JS) Mauer ".323 150gr Spitzer-cartridge OAL:3.050" " Accuracy load: IMR 4895/48.2gr.; 2700fps/2428'#--Hunting Load: IMR4895/50.5gr.; 2800fps/2611'# Fierarm--m98k -bbl/twist--23"/1x9- 1/4" Case-Win--trim to2.230"--primer rem-9-1/2. Sure you can Load a lot heavier if you choose BUT just remember the "Laws of Physics" and the Steel Butt plate on that Mauser. I shot some S/B 196gr spitzers and after 10 rounds I said f this and started reloading 150gr spitzers as above. If you can't kill a whitetail with the above you need more range time. Put a nice scope on that bad-boy( use a Scout Mount so you won't "RUIN" the collectors value--if there is one for Yugo m48s) and enjoy vennison or boar (remember to use a "Head Shot" so you don't spoil any of that good pork for Bar-b-Que" THANX--SNEAKY