I've read elsewhere the sights for the 4 mk1 that Numrich sells are really made for the #5 and an indentation needs to be made on the rifle, which is a concern.
Finally, if you have a correct sight and will part with it, please PM me.
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Correct micrometer or ladder sight for 4 mk1? |
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I'd like to replace the 300/600 sight on my BSA made rifle and want to know which is the correct sight to ask for and where to find one. I also want to
know if this is a drop-in part for this rifle of do I have to have the rifle altered in any way?
I've read elsewhere the sights for the 4 mk1 that Numrich sells are really made for the #5 and an indentation needs to be made on the rifle, which is a concern. Finally, if you have a correct sight and will part with it, please PM me. Cheers
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eli: You have the Mk.2 backsight - wartime expedient. The Mk.1 backsight is what you want. It is a 'drop in' and no modification is needed. If you
order from Gun Parts, specify the Mk.1 for the No.4 rifle, adjustable to 1300yds - the No.5 rifle's backsight is adjustable to 800yds. Good luck - watch
for the plunger spring as you disassemble.
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Thanks Ed, does this look to be correct?
http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=531460&chrSuperSKU=&MC= For some reason I can't make the link 'live' .
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That link shows a picture of the sight for a No. 5 "Jungle Carbine". It will work but is not "correct", as I have used one on a No. 4
rifle. It didn't need to have the rifle altered to work.
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eli: Try Springfield Sporters. Used milled adjustable sight for $10. Get a couple of the axis pin retaining pins for a buck each - they are small and easily
hide when dropped onto a carpet. Talk to SS about the backsight - they will likely have some Indian marked items and you may want to ask them for an ROF
stamped sight and one in the best nick possible to match your rifle's finish. I've had very good service from SS.
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Thanks Ed, I just gave them my order and I hope to have it soon. They don't have a used sight so I ordered a new one but $20 is still ok for this sight,
IMO.
Cheers
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eli: Good on ya! I don't know why I suggested an ROF backsight - must have been a senior moment? I'd think any Commonwealth Mk.1 backsight, should be a
good match. A new backsight for $20 seems a very decent price. By the way, the Mk.1 backsight can be "cranked" down a little bit below the 200yd
stamping for a relatively good approximation for 100yd use.
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Well, yesterday my new sight was waiting in the mail box when I returned home in the evening and it is very nice. It is marked on the side with a 'B'
over 'CR' over '670'. On the face it is marked from 2(00) to 13(00) yards with a 'B' in the upper left corner. There is a 'B'
and an '↑' on top of the adjuster knob. The sight gives four clicks below the 200 mark and there are what I assume are '50' yard marks up to
the 1200 yard setting. Tonight I'll install this and give it a workout latter in the week.
I shot this rifle yesterday at 100 yards and though there were all sorts of other things going on with me at the time, I was only able to score 75 out of 200, with the 300/600 sight and S. African Mk. VII ammo. Thinking about it latter, I realized that it was probably hitting where I was aiming, very low and all over trying to compensate for a problem with the sighting before I had really and properly determined if the rifle would not hit POA. It has a .045 sight up front and I had only fired five indiscriminate rounds previously from it, not the thing to do to prepare for a competition, but it sure makes for an interesting few minutes on the line. Next weekend I will find out if it helps, shooting it in another match but this time at 200 and 300 yards. I don't expect to show very well as a competitor but I do enjoy seeing what I can do with 'whatever' rifle I bring while I enjoy being at the range. Cheers
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eli griggs wrote: Eli: Try using the 200yd setting and use a 6:00 hold until you know how your rifle is grouping at 100yds; I'd shoot 20 - 30 rounds of deliberate slow
fire to start. Try cranking the sight to "bottom" and fire another 20 - 30 rds of slow fire to see how it groups with a 6:00 hold - be aware that
when you crank the sight to "full bottom", the sight may "spring back" up by a bit during firing and don't be upset with it, just be
aware that a Mk.1 backsight in good nick may do this and account for it until you know how the sight will act under live fire. A "range book" is
invaluable in setting up a new backsight. Don't worry about the foresight blade height until you absolutely know how your rifle shoots with the new
backsight. Change ONLY ONE thing at a time and be certain as you can about how your rifle shoots before making another change - don't make the mistake of
"chasing sights" before you know how the first change (the backsight) is really working. Remember too that something like 3" groups at 100yds
from a fixed rest was the acceptable standard for the No.4 out the arsenal door. I've shot 70% hits on a 3"x5" target at 200yds on my best day
with a '43 Maltby with a (shame on me) PH5C backsight - was definitely "deliberate".
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