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Posts: 6 (07/21/08 06:59 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None does the m44 kick less than the m38???
69396		#1	[-]
Posts: 769 (07/21/08 11:28 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	yes
Kris Tunetso		#2	[-]
Posts: 6 (07/21/08 11:38 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Must be a matter of opinion. I find no difference in kick between my M38 and M44.
69396		#3	[-]
Posts: 770 (07/22/08 10:59 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Welcome aboard Kris and snot (don't get to say that every day!) Actually a lighter rifle firing identical ammo is going to recoil more than a heavier one. Because of the 44s bayo and attachment metal it weighs about a pound more than a 38.
Mountain Doctor		#4	[-]
Posts: 2787 (07/22/08 12:30 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Newtons Third Law. The 44 kicks less. Don't worry about it though. Recoil is cool. More is better. Nothing exceeds like excess.
Pahtu		#5	[-]
Posts: 2041 (07/22/08 01:12 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Kinda a personal thing, recoil.... I have nephews who are on the small side - They can shoot my M44's & 91-30's all day, no problem. I have a 240 pound friend who shot my 91-30 once & handed it back to me, saying that I can have back my cannon...? Some can take recoil, other's cannot. Use a slip on rubber recoil pad if shooting your MN's become abusive.... Pahtu.
scooter222		#6	[-]
Posts: 4891 (07/22/08 09:45 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ditto. While recoil is effected by the weight, cartridge, and style of the gun. Many times it comes down to how much time you have shooting them. As for the standard 8x57 and 7.62x54R they aren't bad. Practice makes perfect. Someone who shoots 20 rnds a couple times a year will never have the recoil insensivty as a 100+ a month shooter. Slip on pads are great, but the Pachmyer "shield" is even better if your going to shoot alot. There's nothing sissy using ear, eye and shoulder protection. A bad flinch will ruin your accuracy. I know a guy that bought a 12 ga. 3,1/2" mag. He couldn't shoot a 3" mag. Now he makes alot of noise and nothing to show but a sore shouder. I call him "Flinch". He doesn't get it. He thinks he's "Flech", Chevy Chase.
Kris Tunetso		#7	[-]
Posts: 8 (07/23/08 01:17 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I agree that a lot of it is personal. A friend of mine is about 6'-2" and 260 lbs. He shoots 3-1/2" shells with steel shot out of his 870 when he goes duck hunting. Came by one night and let me try a shot: nearly tore my shoulder off. Im not tiny, but at 5'-11" and 145 lbs, Im not big either. He took the blast better than I did. On the flip-side, he took one shot with my Model 66 in .357 magnum and handed it back, saying he didnt like the 'cannon': I can go through 20 or more rounds before my wrists start hurting. The reason for both of these, I believe, is familiarity. He knew how the steel shot magnums would perform and was used to them, but was wholey unprepared for my .357. On the other hand, I shoot my magnum regularly so it doesnt bother me at all. Familiarity is key in dealing with the recoil characteristics of any firearm, though having things like compensators and recoil pads certainly make things more enjoyable. To give another example of how familiarity helps with recoil, I've put enough rounds though my M44 and M38 that, at least to me, they both have little more kick than either of my .22s. Im just that familiar with my weapons. However, my buddy's 1903 Springfield still pounds my shoulder even though it's got balistics similar to the Mosin. Why? Im not as familiar or comfortable with it: havent had the practice. To sum it up, recoil from any weapon can be handled considerably just by practicing and becoming familiar with the weapon. With enough practice Im sure even a 16" deck gun from the Battleship Missouri could be considered 'tame'.
gandog56		#8	[-]
Posts: 48 (07/23/08 10:39 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I believe that the mass of the bayonet would have to make it kick less than an M38. I'll have to take both to the range next time and compare. So far they only gone one at a time. Go ahead, make my day.
scooter222		#9	[-]
Posts: 4899 (07/23/08 11:45 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	snot slinger wrote: does the m44 kick less than the m38??? To get back to the originol Q, yes it should in theory. It's a little heavier. Don't loos sleep over shooting either one. several other things have not been brought up that effects recoil. One BIG on is your hearing protection. Loud muzzel blast can make you flinch even tough the gun doesn't kick much. A steel buttplate also adds to the recoil. Style of the guns makes a difference to your build and weight. What your wearing and the position your in while shooting makes a dif. Bottom line is when you try a new gun don't be afraid and stiffin up. Relax, hold the gun and aim. Your not shooting a cannon and the first shot won't kill you. Have fun. Oh and wipe yer nose.
zeebill		#10	[-]
Posts: 3231 (07/24/08 08:04 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I think Ted at 7.62x54r.net has some info printed up over there for a look see at figures. Me I don't need no stinking recoil pad mahn! I am a real Mahn in my best Cheech voice! Make that read no sense no feeling I guess? The worst I have ever been damaged by recoil was from a little black powder shooting Smith's Carbine believe it or not! It has a butt stock about the size of a Red Rider BB gun and I could find no way to tuck it into my shoulder and keep it stable and comfortable. Shot two days with it in competition and my shoulder was like a piece of raw meat and every color of the rainbow the next day. Ouch! Bill
gandog56		#11	[-]
Posts: 56 (07/26/08 01:58 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I used to think a nice shoulder bruise was something to be proud of when I was a young buck. Now that I'm geezing, I just reach for the Aspircreme. But none of my Mosins kick me like my Steyr M95! Go ahead, make my day.