1907 Carbine! Pictures are here!!

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zeebill	1907 Carbine! Pictures are here!!	Lead	[-]
Posts: 3300 (09/30/08 09:50 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I have been a Busy Beaver here and not had time to post about it but I bought a 1907 Carbine from another board Member right before I took off on the road trip I found nothing on this past weekend. It is all matching and phosphate coated a process KH says they did in the 20's or so. I am trying to go from memory as it is locked away in the shop safe and I am trying to slow down and hit the bed it a bit after a trying day of errands and junk. I am hoping WVChuck sees this and has time to post the pictures I sent to him last week in an email so you guys will get to see this little beauty. Strange thing is it is missing a cleaning rod and when I get time to find it I am sure I have either the right one or one that is close to it. Still need to look at it closer but the next few days don't bode to allow time for it as I am trying to get things set for a Knob Creek trip and two other gun shows later in the month plus I am flat out of clean clothes and things like that! More to come later I hope! Bill Last Edited By: WVchuck 10/01/08 07:58 PM. Edited 1 time.
WVchuck		#1	[-]
Posts: 11331 (10/01/08 06:56 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'll do that this evening after work Bill. Get your laundry taken care of!! Folks, you'll love this one!
WVchuck		#2	[-]
Posts: 11335 (10/01/08 08:05 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post
Pahtu		#3	[-]
Posts: 2103 (10/02/08 08:20 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks for the pic's of a rare and hard to come by 1907! Really decent looking gun! Pahtu.
dangson		#4	[-]
Posts: 311 (10/02/08 08:44 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Great photos. Great condition. What a find.
Renfield54		#5	[-]
Posts: 359 (10/02/08 11:54 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks for the pictures............that's a fantastic find!! Bill..........you are SO lucky!! "Dusty old helmet.....Rusty old gun......They sit in the corner and wait" ~Audie Murphy--1925-1971~
Mountain Doctor		#6	[-]
Posts: 3018 (10/02/08 01:03 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	How did you take such excellent pictures of the bore?
WVchuck		#7	[-]
Posts: 11338 (10/02/08 05:31 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I didn't take the pictures, I just posted them after Bill gave the OK to get them on the net. I think the seller did the photos. I take bore shots from the muzzle end as it tends to help focus things better with the cheap camera that I use.
Hessenfesser		#8	[-]
Posts: 55 (10/02/08 07:47 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Congrats, Bill! That's a beauty for sure!!! ~Hessenfesser
zeebill		#9	[-]
Posts: 3303 (10/02/08 11:44 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks Chuck for posting the pictures and yes they were taken by the seller. He did a great job of taking pictures for sure far beyond anything I could take! I am very lucky for sure to have been offered a shot at it and I do appreciate it. If things ever slow down here I will get a chance to look real close at it. Oh before anybody asks about the B in a circle on the rifle it doesn't mean in this case it has been through Bulgaria I am told. Some idiocyncracy of 1907 carbines having that often and the meaning is supposedly unknown as far as I can tell. The phosphate coating certainly makes it look wierd for sure, I can't help but wonder what it might be covering in the way of markings? This rifle has been fired with lower powered cartridges just recently by the way so it is operational. Bill ELT
NotPC		#10	[-]
Posts: 5447 (10/03/08 12:48 PM) Host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	WOW! My heartiest congratulations, Bill! What a score. Enjoy! Regards.
millman711		#11	[-]
Posts: 7 (10/03/08 06:24 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Very nice Bill. Great find. Millman
m1 talker		#12	[-]
Posts: 6145 (10/03/08 07:11 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Zeebill- not to go off topic, but I have a question for you. Some of your postings end with the letters ELT. What does that mean? Just curious. Nice find, by the way. Some people have all the luck. Curt
Carl Gustav		#13	[-]
Posts: 3145 (10/03/08 10:01 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Congrtulations on finding a fantastic rifle. When do we get a range reprot? Carl
zeebill		#14	[-]
Posts: 3305 (10/03/08 10:37 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I finally got to tear it apart today and find the Phosphate coating is on everything including the bolt and trigger group too. It sure looks strange! I find that everything is early Izhevsk on the rifle and all matching throughout. I also found some numbers? scribbled in the barrel channel in pencil but they correspond to nothing that I can see. ELT is easy to explain as I try and make it my goal for each and everyday I get! Enjoy Life Today! Bill PS I put some time and magic into the bore and it now shines and has great rifling! Range trip? I have not made my mind up yet! Last Edited By: zeebill 10/03/08 10:41 PM. Edited 1 times.
m1 talker		#15	[-]
Posts: 6147 (10/04/08 12:13 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks Bill. Yes, that is a very good saying. Curt
Pahtu		#16	[-]
Posts: 2105 (10/04/08 06:44 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Newbie members....Enjoy pic's of this carbine!! One could look long and hard & never see one in the "wild" Years ago, I had one in my hands & did not know what it was. The rifle was well sportered in a nice walnut handmade stock. The barreled action was untouched. I wish I bought it, but the $150.00 price tag seemed steep at the time. Later I kicked myself, as I realized finding such a duck was unprobable....unless I spent the bucks & pried one away from an advanced collector... Pahtu.
akguy1985		#17	[-]
Posts: 8 (10/06/08 04:58 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	wow, nice find, your lucky
wester25	1907	#18	[-]
Posts: 50 (10/06/08 12:18 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Excuse my ignorance, but what is a 1907 carbine? Just from looking at the pictures if I were to see it at a show I would say it was a 91/38, with the exception of the blade front sight. I started getting interested in MN's only a couple of years ago, but I've never heard a reference to a 1907 carbine.
skywarp989		#19	[-]
Posts: 3202 (10/07/08 07:06 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The M91/38 is a slightly mysterious (as far as details go) Czech conversion of usually Imperial Russian rifles. The M1907 carbine was a true, purpose-built Russian carbine Mosin and they are like hen's teeth. Gold hen's teeth. More reading: http://mosinnagant.net/USSR/M1907-Carbine.asp Congrats Bill! I think I've seen that one before... I say go shoot it! Last Edited By: skywarp989 10/07/08 07:11 PM. Edited 1 times.
65x55mm		#20	[-]
Posts: 409 (10/08/08 07:35 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Bill, Contrats, but Mitchell's Mausers is selling those w/ the phosphate finish... A friend of that runs a machine shop just sold them a bunch of 1907 Carbine reproduction sights..... I'll trade you your SVT38 for your 1907 Carbine? I'll even pay the shipping! Seriously, Congrats!!!!!!!!!! "The chase is better than the catch..." -- Motorhead (I'm referring to Milsurps, of course...)