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Posts: 9 (12/16/08 06:44 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I have read on this site about one of the reloading manuals that has data for surplus loads. does anybody remember which one it was? All info appreciated.
beanstrung		#1	[-]
Posts: 4890 (12/16/08 07:23 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The Lyman manual covers most of them... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
Tenring36		#2	[-]
Posts: 660 (12/16/08 07:32 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm not sure what you're looking for. Just about all the manuals have loads for the common milsurp firearms (7.7 and 6.5 Jap, 303 Brit, M1 Carbine, 8mm Mauser, 6.5 Swede, 7.5 Swiss, etc, etc.). If you could be a little more specific I could probably help you since I have quite a few manuals. Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for .... Will Rogers
McNasty		#3	[-]
Posts: 10 (12/16/08 08:06 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm looking to load 30-06 for my Garand and 7.7 jap. However just looking for all surp equivelent loads.
NC Cruffler		#4	[-]
Posts: 436 (12/16/08 09:59 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	LOL- I remember that cartoon avatar from my high school days back in Virginia. We were the Douglas Southall Freeman Rebels. Those were the days- before the "politically correct" crowd popped up. The Hornady manual specifically lists military load suggestions for 5.56X45 NATO (.223), 7.62X51 NATO (.308), and .30-06 for service rifles. As far as the .30-06 for your Garand, stick to IMR 4895. I pulled some Greek, Korean and another issue '06 and found that the powder charges were all right at 46 grains plus or minus .3 grains. I load 46 grains under a 150 grain milspec bullet for my Garand. I may try the plus/minus .3 trick to see which of the 3 loads is the most accurate. Dave Dave Green, NRA Life Member since 1973 Last Edited By: NC Cruffler 12/17/08 02:40 PM. Edited 2 times.
doug henry		#5	[-]
Posts: 1785 (12/17/08 10:20 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Lyman's is my first go to manual. The Lee is another one that has alot of C&R loads and it's inexpensive.
TimRB		#6	[-]
Posts: 71 (12/17/08 01:55 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The Hornady manual has a section specifically for the Garand rifle. Tim
Tenring36		#7	[-]
Posts: 661 (12/17/08 05:02 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The Hornady Manual (7th edition) has both calibers you mention along with very many other milsurp calibers. It's my favorite manual followed by Lyman. I have a Lee manual, but I stopped using it when I found one listing specifying a minimum load that was greater than the maximum load. I can't remember what caliber it was, but I don't need problems like that. Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for .... Will Rogers
McNasty		#8	[-]
Posts: 11 (12/17/08 05:49 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ok, thanks guys. Sound like the Hornady and Lyman manuals are on the Christmas list.
ballcap57		#9	[-]
Posts: 398 (12/17/08 08:17 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I got a sneak peek at one of my Christmas presents. A Lyman 48th edition reloading manual. From what I heard the 48th is better than the one currently being made. But unfortunately it is out of print now. I guess my wife still loves me, for she found a 48th edition for a pretty good price too. http://pistoleer.com/lyman/accessories/ I have used Lee manuals for the last few years exclusively and have had good results. I may be biased in my opinion, but I prefer manuals produced by non-bullet/non-powder making companies.
Tenring36		#10	[-]
Posts: 663 (12/17/08 10:39 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ballcap57, I hate to burst your bubble, but Lee data is taken from the major powder manufacturers. In his introduction, Lee states that "Comprehensive load data (is) compiled from all major powder supplier's published information...." Later in the book he thanks the following companies for their data: Accurate Arms, Alliant Powder, Hodgdon Powder Company, IMR Powder Company, Vihtavuori Oy, and Winchester. I once had a Sierra ballistics technician tell me that Lee has never tested a single load in the history of their company. Perhaps that's why their manual is so inexpensive. Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for .... Will Rogers
eb in oregon		#11	[-]
Posts: 489 (12/18/08 01:07 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I never rely on any single book. I'll look at all I have and compare, then decide where I want to start. My goal has never been more ambitious than duplicating factory loads. I use Lee, Accurate, Speer, Hornady, and Lymans. The Lyman book is for comparing case dimensions. I don't do cast bullets in rifles. At least not right now. Who knows what the future holds. "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." Benjamin Franklin, July 4 1776
doug henry		#12	[-]
Posts: 1792 (12/29/08 11:32 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Lyman's 47 edition is still my main reloading manual as it lists older powders that fit my powder supplies. The 48th edition incorporates newer powders at the sacrifice of older powders and therefor represents more of what is available today. I find that load data varies quite a bit between different reloading manuals. I will examine loads from more than one manual and start with minimum powder charges and work up from there. The Lee is a very good collection of load data, apparently from several sources. For the variety of cartridges and the minimal cost it's a good reference source and my second to to manual. For older Lyman manuals check the on line auctions.

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