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antonz	My First Commercial Mauser	Lead	[-]
Posts: 539 (11/24/08 06:38 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Won this on Gunbroker a few days ago. Been a K98 guy most of my life so this is new to me. First question. Is this a Model C? The rifle has not arrived yet but the stock is fairly beat up but metal and bore are supposed to be in good shape. Paid $135 for it so I don't think I have much to lose. The front sight blade is broken off and the barrel sling swivel is missing. Any idea where to find replacement parts? Thanks in advance. Rifle just arrived. Nicer than I thought. Stamped matching numbers on receiver,trigger guard,trigger group,follower,front sight,stock channel and butt plate. The bolt is unnumbered. Looks like a GEW bolt that has been bent. Bore and muzzle are in great shape. Headspace is fine. Has two blades on the rear sight, one folding, one fixed. Stock has nice figure and a plug where the disk was. Its in 8mm and reads 7.91 on the barrel ring. Receiver and side rail have been scrubbed. Anton " For those willing to fight for it, life and liberty have a flavor the protected will never know." Last Edited By: antonz 11/24/08 10:02 PM. Edited 6 times.
texraid		#1	[-]
Posts: 474 (11/27/08 11:31 AM) Forum Co-host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	antonz, it appears you have a sporterized military mauser. A model C would normally have a schnabel forend and a pear shaped bolt. Parts are readily available at any larger gun show. It should be a good shooter.
antonz		#2	[-]
Posts: 540 (11/27/08 12:34 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	texraid, Thanks for the reply. Anton " For those willing to fight for it, life and liberty have a flavor the protected will never know."
VIS35		#3	[-]
Posts: 3072 (11/27/08 06:28 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	antonz, A link to a thread on this forum that addressed some of the features of the Type C model. http://parallaxscurioandr...rums.yuku.com/topic/27852 VIS aka Blind Hog "Even a Blind Hog sometimes finds an acorn"
Dalkowski110		#4	[-]
Posts: 1223 (11/28/08 10:40 AM) Forum Co-host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	"Its in 8mm and reads 7.91 on the barrel ring." Before sticking a round up the pipe, remember that a lot of Weimar era sporters are in a caliber called 8x60 because 7.92x57 wasn't legal for a civilian to possess. 8x60 comes in two variations: 8x60S, which is a .323" bore, and 8x60J, which is .318". You can buy ammo, brass, and/or dies at Buffalo Arms. I'd cast the chamber before I shot it. The reason I think it might be a Weimar sporter is the fixed rear sight; typically, a bottom-of-the-line sporterized Gewehr 98's primary modification aside from the stock and rechambering was the rear sight being converted from Lange Vizier to fixed.
Vladymere gr		#5	[-]
Posts: 2434 (11/28/08 02:40 PM) Forum Co-host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	You could also make an 8x57 blank if you are a handloader and blow it out ot see what the chamber is. Take an 8x57 sized and trimmed piece of brass, load with 10 grains of Bullseye pistol powder, Unique would probably work also, and fill the rest of the way with grits or cream of wheat, top with a piece of cardboard. I also put a couplke of drips of candle wax in the top to hold the cardboard in place. When you touch this blank off in your rifle it will blow out to the chamber dimensions. If it is an 8x60 you will see the shoulder is blown out and moved forward. 8x60 brass could probably be made from .30-'06 brass. The 7,91 on the top of the barrel ring is a left over from it's military days indicating the distance between lands, not groove size. 7,91 should be a .323 bore but I would slug the bore to know exactly what you have. I have a Kar98a that was sporterized between wars. The bore measures .313" land and .325 groove" diameters. Original WWI era bullets probbably "slugged" up just fine to fill this bore but todays bullets with thicker, harder jackets won't slug up and gave me lousy groups when using spitzer bullets. I had to go to a 180 grain round nosed bullet to get a longer bearing surface and better accuracy. Vlad Looking for Gew.88 based sporting rifles Looking for a Lyman #22 sight for the Gew.88/Mannlicher Last Edited By: Vladymere gr 11/28/08 08:12 PM. Edited 1 times.
antonz		#6	[-]
Posts: 541 (11/28/08 04:07 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Gentleman, Thank you for your sage advise. Vlad, I will load up a blank and see what I come up with. Anton " For those willing to fight for it, life and liberty have a flavor the protected will never know."
antonz		#7	[-]
Posts: 544 (12/26/08 06:46 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Vladymere gr wrote: You could also make an 8x57 blank if you are a handloader and blow it out ot see what the chamber is. Take an 8x57 sized and trimmed piece of brass, load with 10 grains of Bullseye pistol powder, Unique would probably work also, and fill the rest of the way with grits or cream of wheat, top with a piece of cardboard. I also put a couplke of drips of candle wax in the top to hold the cardboard in place. When you touch this blank off in your rifle it will blow out to the chamber dimensions. If it is an 8x60 you will see the shoulder is blown out and moved forward. 8x60 brass could probably be made from .30-'06 brass. The 7,91 on the top of the barrel ring is a left over from it's military days indicating the distance between lands, not groove size. 7,91 should be a .323 bore but I would slug the bore to know exactly what you have. I have a Kar98a that was sporterized between wars. The bore measures .313" land and .325 groove" diameters. Original WWI era bullets probbably "slugged" up just fine to fill this bore but todays bullets with thicker, harder jackets won't slug up and gave me lousy groups when using spitzer bullets. I had to go to a 180 grain round nosed bullet to get a longer bearing surface and better accuracy. Vlad I did Vlad's blank test and this rifle checks out as a 8x57mm. Would this mean it was converted pre Weimar? Just curious. Thanks again. Anton " For those willing to fight for it, life and liberty have a flavor the protected will never know."
Dalkowski110		#8	[-]
Posts: 1224 (01/13/09 06:59 PM) Forum Co-host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	"I did Vlad's blank test and this rifle checks out as a 8x57mm. Would this mean it was converted pre Weimar? Just curious. Thanks again. " I would imagine so. Either that or just pre-WWII/made during the Nazi era.
kidmma		#9	[-]
Posts: 165 (08/29/09 02:47 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I know this is an older post but, that looks like a scrubbed Yugo that was imported as a sporter a few years back. I saw a few for sale locally and thru Century. Just thought I'd add that. Scott
Dalkowski110		#10	[-]
Posts: 1264 (08/31/09 01:20 AM) Forum Co-host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Scott, You sure? The stock looks like a modified Gewehr 98 stock and the rear sight is, as I said, very typical of 1920's-1930's Weimar sporters.
kidmma		#11	[-]
Posts: 167 (09/07/09 08:49 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Good point Dall. That looks like the sight on my Guild gun. Same time perid you refer to. I think the ones I saw had an original rear sight. Scott
Carl Gustav		#12	[-]
Posts: 3475 (09/08/09 09:24 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I bought one of those sporterized Yugos from Century and it looks nothing like yours, antonz. Mine is crappy to put it mildly and one of the very few of many purchases from Century that disappointed me. Does the barrel where the rear sight is appear to have had a standard military sight on it at one time? Are there any old markings on the metal? Carl