1909 Argentine Carbine Value

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thedoveshooter	1909 Argentine Carbine Value	Lead	[-]
Posts: 17 (01/06/09 09:01 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None What is about the going rate for a DWM 1909 Argentine carbine that is in very good conditon and all matching?
beanstrung		#1	[-]
Posts: 4931 (01/07/09 07:22 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Is it a 1909 Cavalry Carbine or a 1909 Engineers Carbine? There were only 10,000 of the Engineers Carbines ever manufactured, whereas there were 24,000 of the Cavalry Carbines made, both by DWM. (Many more 1909 Cavalry Carbines were made in the 1940's by FMAP in Argentina) Is the crest still present, or is it scrubbed? Is the receiver still in-the-white, or has it been blued? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
thedoveshooter		#2	[-]
Posts: 18 (01/07/09 12:21 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The receiver is blued and the crest is perfect. I don't know the difference between a Calvary and Engineers carbine. It looks to be shorter than 23 1/4" like my Yugo M24/47 and it looks "snub-nosed".
Aubullet		#3	[-]
Posts: 968 (01/07/09 02:08 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	If by snub-nosed you mean that the forend wood goes clear up to the front sight and the front band has ears that protect the front sight, then you have the Cavalry Carbine, and the receiver probably shouldn't be blued. That would suggest a later rebuild, or something like that. However, if the forend looks about the same as the long rifle, only with less space between the barrel bands, then you have the Engineers carbine and a blued receiver is more typical, but still not original. Pictures would definately help for assessing a possible valuation.
thedoveshooter		#4	[-]
Posts: 19 (01/07/09 05:23 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Aubullet: It must be a calvary carbine according to how you decribed it. I saw the rifle at a local pawn shop and the bluing looks really good but also like it has not been reblued (if it has been) in a while.
beanstrung		#5	[-]
Posts: 4936 (01/08/09 07:25 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	1909 Argentine Engineers Carbine: (The receiver on this one is blued, but should be in-the-white) 1909 Argentine Cavalry Carbine: For a 1909 DWM Cavalry Carbine, all-matching, with crest, in only "Good" condition, I'd estimate about $300 ~ $$350. If the white receiver has been blued, subtract $50 ~ $75. Make sure that it's not a 1960's era importer "chop-down". When you say "snub-nose", the muzzle should protrude about 1/2" forward of the nose-cap. If it's flush with the nose-cap, it's likely a chopped-down long-rifle, and only worth about $150 ~ $200. Also, the real Carbine will have a very short rear sight. A cut-down long-rifle will have the standard long rear tangent leaf sight. Rear Sight on 1909 Cavalry Carbine: Rear Sight on 1909 Engineers Carbine: Rear Sight on 1909 Long-Rifle: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10