MODELO 1912 Question, DocAV are you out there?

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moisinman	MODELO 1912 Question, DocAV are you out there?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 392 (01/23/09 08:00 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I understand the converted Steyr M-1912's were actually rebored instead of rebarreled to cal. 30-06 from the original 7 MM. cal. Since I can only assume that this was an economy measure, if indeed it was, then was this accomplished somehow with the barrel still attached to the receiver? And if the barrel was actually removed, it begs the question as to why a new barrel was'nt installed at that time. Any historical factual date here, guys? Last Edited By: beanstrung 02/01/09 09:34 AM. Edited 2 times.
beanstrung		#1	[-]
Posts: 4980 (01/23/09 11:16 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I don't know about .30-06, but many were converted to 7.62-NATO in the early 1960's. The Long-Rifles (both model 1895 & model 1912/60) were converted by boring out and re-rifling the bore, then silver-soldering a chamber insert in place to shorten the chamber to 7.62X51 NATO. See Link Here: http://dutchman.rebooty.com/1895Chile.html These are considered to be somewhat suspect for safety & reliability, but most folks agree that they are OK with reduced pressure handloads. The model 1912/61 Short-Rifles were converted by using U.S. surplus Springfield model 1903/A3 two-groove .30-06 barrels which were shortened about 1/2-inch on the chamber end (to shorten it to 7.62-NATO), then rethreaded for Mauser threads, then re-profiled on the outside to the "stepped" Mauser profile. The original 7X57 barrel was removed, and it was replaced with the modified Springfield barrel. These are excellent shooters, and many are found with virtually new, and unused barrels. -Bean --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
moisinman	caliber issue	#2	[-]
Posts: 393 (01/30/09 01:18 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sorry, but I've shot mine a half dozen times with 30-06 ammo, handloaded down to 13 gr red dot (see articles on "The Load" reduced velocity .30 cal loads), substituting the original jacketed heads for lead, much as I use in my '03's and my '08 Mausers and my Garands since the old shoulder started wearing out. It's a fun, accurate, well balanced rifle with plenty of "patina" and history. I'm guessing that they possibly went to 30-06 at the end of the conversions to avoid the chamber insert issue, as outlined above. Thanks for the info.
antonz		#3	[-]
Posts: 550 (02/01/09 12:56 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I have one each of these in 7.62x51 Nato. Both are great shooters. Never had an issue with the insert on the long rifle. You are right about the 03 two groove barrels on the short rifle. The one I have looks almost new. Anton " For those willing to fight for it, life and liberty have a flavor the protected will never know."
beanstrung		#4	[-]
Posts: 5000 (02/01/09 09:33 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm not familiar with any in .30-06, but if DocAV happens along, he'll know if anyone does... DocAV, are you out there? -Bean --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10
Vladymere gr		#5	[-]
Posts: 2454 (02/01/09 10:25 AM) Forum Co-host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Silver Solder? Why do you think silver solder? The referenced article suggests soft solder, I.E-lead/tin solder, not silver solder. Plumbers solder was the most common solder ever used Mauser rifles and most firearms for that matter. Vlad Looking for Gew.88 based sporting rifles Looking for a Lyman #22 sight for the Gew.88/Mannlicher