Which 7.62x54R & 8mm surplus do you like

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600racer	Which 7.62x54R & 8mm surplus do you like	Lead	[-]
Posts: 27 (02/14/09 12:15 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I have a little money saved up for some ammo and was wondering which 7.62x54R & 8mm Mauser ya'll like. It looks like a good selection of 7.64x54R is out there but not so much on the 8mm. Probably go with the Aim Romanian 7.62 although Widners does have some nice 7.62x54R & 8mm. Do yo like the heavy or light ball better?
m1 talker		#1	[-]
Posts: 6492 (02/14/09 04:29 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	What I like and what my rifles like are very often different. I let the rifle tell me what it likes best, and no two rifles are going to be the same. Sorry, but I can not answer your question with anything more than that. Curt
NC Cruffler		#2	[-]
Posts: 475 (02/14/09 08:32 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It all depends what I'm gonna shoot it in, bolt or semi-auto and barrel length. I've yet to have a bad experience with any Yugo made 8mm or 7.62X54R. PSL needs light ball, SVT likes heavy. Mosins vary with barrel length. Turks & Czechs like hot light ball, K98 & M48 go good with heavy, SAFN must use heavy, M76 likes light ball. Maybe if you asked what to feed a particular rifle you'll get better advise. Dave Dave Green, NRA Life Member since 1973
600racer		#3	[-]
Posts: 28 (02/15/09 02:47 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks guys. Curt I know each gun is a little different, I was just trying to weed out some ammo some have seen problems lately. I shoot a CZ52 in 7.62x25 and there is some Bulgarian out there that's too hot and blew up a few pistols. What I'm shooting a M39 and a 91/30 in 7.62x54r. The M39 is for all practical purposes new with a post war rebuild and mirror sharp bore. The 91/30 is from 1936. While the bore is not mirror bright, it does have very good rifling. My 8mm is a 1941 RC 98K Mauser that isn't much to look at but still has very good rifling. The M39 has a 3-12x Burris scope with one of Darrels mounts. I have a one of his mounts for the 91/30 that's waiting for the right scope sale as is the 98k. The range I shoot at is only 100yds but there are a couple of places I can go on occasion and stretch that out to 300 yds. I sighted the M39 in yesterday and while it was shooting tight groups at 50 yds 100 yd groups were no where near as tight. Some of that was due to my lack of experience in shooting. I can't remember where I bought the ammo but has a 3 10 52 star headstamp and is pretty dirty. I'd run a patch through it about every 10 rounds so the days end cleanup wouldn't be as bad as the first time I tried to sight in the scope, a loose screw on the mount messed that day up. These rounds are brass? wrapped in paper in groups of 10 tied with string if that helps.
m1 talker		#4	[-]
Posts: 6499 (02/15/09 05:26 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Isn't that Bulgarian ammo? When 7.62X54R ammo first became available around here about fifteen years ago, that was all that was offered. One gun shop had it and it came in 50 rounds packed in a ziplock plastic bag with the name Burns Brothers on it. I never had any complaints with it, as there was nothing else available at the time to compare it to, and I had a couple M-N rifles that I have had for a couple of years and unable to shoot them due to lack of ammo. So, I was thankful at the time for what I could get. Later when the Czech stuff and other steel cased ammo showed up, I started shooting it also, and that is when I ran into the sticky bolt syndrome. But it never was an issue with brass cased ammunition. I never noticed that it was any more dirtier than the other stuff that showed up on the market later, but then again, at the time, I had nothing to compare it with. But in my opinion, dirty burning milsurp ammo is just par for the course. If we wanted clean burning ammo, we would be buying the modern day stuff and wasting our money on it for the simple fact that it burns cleaner. Curt
ball3006	Albanian....	#5	[-]
Posts: 1690 (02/16/09 09:44 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	However, Russian gives the best fireball out of the short rifles.......chris2
Hessenfesser		#6	[-]
Posts: 60 (02/17/09 10:32 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Most of my Russians do well with the Polish light ball from the '70s and '80s but my 1928 Izhevsk ex-dragoon prefers '70s vintage Hungarian heavy ball. The Polish ammo does have a very nice fireball when fired from Mosin carbines. ~Hessenfesser
69396		#7	[-]
Posts: 792 (02/20/09 12:16 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	More of my 39s and 91/30s prefer Czech light ball to any other kind of surplus ammo accuracy-wise. Stickiness can be a problem-especially with refurb 91/30s. Generally any rifle (my experience) that likes Cz will also do well with Polish or Hungarian lb For rifles that do better with heavy ball, I've had good luck with Yugo (high quality) and Bulgarian. My two 98ks much prefer heavy ball and don't shoot Turk or Romanian lb as well. I have a fair supply of Yugo and German hb for them. Because of collectibility I shoot the German very painstakingly! hth
ProGun1		#8	[-]
Posts: 18 (02/24/09 03:57 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Try this site for 7.62x54r. It has an extensive ammunition comparison including which rifles they fired them through as a comparison. Very interesting and detailed. I've based my ammo purchase over the past few years owing to this info. http://www.7.62x54r.net
Ken Shabby		#9	[-]
Posts: 416 (02/24/09 06:39 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Albanian light ball, which is brass-cased, has worked well for me in a variety of Mosin-Nagants. Hungarian heavy ball (steel-cased, silver-yellow tip) works in some rifles but I get sticky bolt in others. As for 8mm, I have been shooting Yugo 70s and 80s ammo with my M48A and M24/47, and it gives excellent performance. I also have some '47 Turk, which is reliable but hotter than the Yugo stuff. I'm planning to buy a case of the Romanian 8mm, but have never shot it before. Last Edited By: Ken Shabby 02/24/09 06:41 PM. Edited 1 times.
m1 talker		#10	[-]
Posts: 6563 (02/24/09 07:58 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	You will get a blast out of shooting the Romanian 8mm out of a short barrelled Mauser, like the K98, M24, M24/47 and M48 and so on. The fireball they create is akin to the M44 carbines at the range on a dimly lit day. Curt
Ken Shabby		#11	[-]
Posts: 425 (02/25/09 06:19 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	That sounds like fun....I noticed that J&G has Turk 8mm in stock, I ordered a few bandoleers today. The last batch I had shot well in my 24/47. Recoil is a bit fierce, but it gave pretty good accuracy.