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ball3006	Going value of a 1916 Amberg..	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1700 (04/11/09 04:25 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Gwr 98. It is all matching, good bore, tigerstripe stock. The only drawback is the handguard is missing along with the cleaning rod. It does not have a bolt takedown fitting in the butt, only a disc on the right side. Thanks...chris3
Crunch130		#1	[-]
Posts: 845 (04/11/09 06:44 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Chris3, Check gunbroker & select "completed auctions" to see what Gew 98's actually sold for. But the stock sounds like it might be off a Czech 98/22 (most of which were sold to Turkey). Crunch
Wulfmann		#2	[-]
Posts: 496 (04/12/09 12:11 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The 98-22 stock does not work on a Gew98. The gew98 uses the short handguard which stops at the front of the rear site while the 98-22 handguard extends all the way to the front of the receiver. If your Gew98 has the small lip that hold the rear of the handguard (immediately in front of the rear site) then that has no been removed/ground off and you do not have a 98-22 stock Wulfmann "The right to bear arms should not be infringed upon if only to prevent tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson; Constitutional debates.
ball3006	The lip	#3	[-]
Posts: 1701 (04/12/09 12:38 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	on the front of the rear sight base is still there. The shop where I saw this rifle wanted 300 bucks for it and they would only come down whatever the tax was. I scanned Gun Broker but there was no Amberg rifles listed in the first 200 auctions and none came up with a search. The shop with this rifle also has a Berthier rifle that has been duffle cut, non matching. I would like to pick up both rifles but the prices are too high for me as I am turning into a WW1 nut job.....chris3
Wulfmann		#4	[-]
Posts: 497 (04/12/09 05:37 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Gew98s did not have take down bolts until 1916 or later at that and all 1916s I have seen do not have them. If it is all matching and a good bore $300.00 would get me to buy it even with the missing HG. Cleaning rod will be harder to find then the HG replacement (You can use a K98k early Walnut) Wulfmann "The right to bear arms should not be infringed upon if only to prevent tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson; Constitutional debates.
AlleyOop007		#5	[-]
Posts: 21 (04/15/09 10:50 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Wulfmann wrote: Gew98s did not have take down bolts until 1916 or later at that and all 1916s I have seen do not have them. If it is all matching and a good bore $300.00 would get me to buy it even with the missing HG. Cleaning rod will be harder to find then the HG replacement (You can use a K98k early Walnut) Wulfmann Please check out the 1917 Amberg Gew98M in my post: http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/topic/32545 It doesn't have the take down bolts and I am wondering if the current stock is original or if it was replaced during the "M" conversion. AlleyOop007 NRA Life Member since 1969 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
ball3006	Yo, Alleyoop007...	#6	[-]
Posts: 1702 (04/16/09 06:39 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Nice rifle you have there. The one I am looking at is not that pretty, alot of patina in the bluing. The stock is a nice tiger strip. The rear sight is original rolly poly. I thought the rear sling swivel was missing but from your pic, it has been removed and the sling attached to the trigger guard. I am going to take another look at it this weekend if I can get there before closing. The "snooze, you lose" syndrome is nagging me though. It is about 125 miles away....chris3
AlleyOop007		#7	[-]
Posts: 23 (04/16/09 07:07 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks for the compliment. I'm curious to know if the wood on my rifle is original to its 1917 manufacture or if it was replaced during a rework. AlleyOop007 NRA Life Member since 1969 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
ball3006	If I can find my rifles book...	#8	[-]
Posts: 1703 (04/16/09 09:46 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I will look to see if there is a pic of an Amberg rifle in it. I don't recall the grasping grooves in the rifle I am considering but I am an old guy and I don't remember......chris3
ball3006	Here is an interesting site...	#9	[-]
Posts: 1704 (04/16/09 09:55 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I came across.... http://gewehr98.com/ It probably creates more questions than answers.....chris3
Wulfmann		#10	[-]
Posts: 498 (04/17/09 11:52 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	That could be a replacement as in the 30's or as in now but it is doubtful it is original as it has no unit disk. These are likely not to have take down bolts but lack of unit disk is suspicious to me and the stock has obviously been refinished at some point. That said it is a nice looking gun Wulfmann "The right to bear arms should not be infringed upon if only to prevent tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson; Constitutional debates.
AlleyOop007	Thanks Wulfmann	#11	[-]
Posts: 24 (04/17/09 12:44 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks for the information. I suspected that it was a refinish but I wasn't sure if it was the original stock because of the finger-groove. The fact that there is no visible evidence that it ever had a unit disk sure supports the likelihood that it is original to the rifle. AlleyOop007 NRA Life Member since 1969 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." - Dwight D. Eisenhower
blasterboy82		#12	[-]
Posts: 363 (04/22/09 12:16 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	My 1915 Amberg did had a spot for a unit disk, but no bolt take down. The top hand guard was missing, but a k98 from Numrich fits, and only a GEW expert would tell the difference. I paid $100 for mine 2-3 years ago at a gunshop where it was under consignment. When I first showed pictures of it online I had multiple offers in the $400 range even tho I was told I "destroyed" the rifle by removing the rust (not patina, rust) from the receiver with a cleaner from work (not naval jelly, but I've been told that the result was the same). Howard