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Posts: 1 (05/03/09 09:04 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I have an M95 I bought last year from Gander Mountain. When I fire a round and try to extract the fired case the extracor slips over the rim and leaves the case in the chamber. I have to drive it out with a cleaning rod. On inspecting the fired case I see evidence of small dimpling right at the area where the case shoulder becomes the case neck. Any ideas on how to solve this problem. thanks.
scooter222		#1	[-]
Posts: 5038 (05/03/09 07:29 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Welcome to the forums. When you say dimpling is the metal protruding out from the surrounding surface? The chamber could be pitted. First things first though. Make sure the chambers clean. There could be dried cosmo or corrosion in there. Get a brass bore brush that fits the chamber and spin it with some solvent to give it a good cleaning. Good luck and post back..
continental		#2	[-]
Posts: 2 (05/03/09 07:50 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks for the welcome ...I found this forum searching for an answer to my problem. I did start with a thourough cleaning before the first outing. After the initial stuck case, I did scrub the bore with a stainless chamber brush and solvent, but repeated the stuck case. I then put the stainless steel brush on a rod cucked to a hand drill and carefully reemed the chamber shoulder/neck area with bore paste, cleaned it all up and went back to the range. Unfortunately I got the same results with a stuck case. The area on the case shows some evidence of lines going around the neck like there were grooves in the chamber neck area but there is very light dimpling in the same area (sorry no camera for photos) like there is deep rust pits. Because of the location, it is impossible to examine the area without a bore scope...alas i don't have one of those either. I'm wondering if I can get too aggressive with the stainless chamber brush? Any suggestions would be welcome. Nice little gun, but right now it is a single shot and not fun.
eagle7		#3	[-]
Posts: 3926 (05/04/09 09:52 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I wouldn't be afraid to polish the chamber some more since the 8x56R headspaces on the rim, not the shoulder.
scooter222		#4	[-]
Posts: 5039 (05/04/09 12:14 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I would use a brass brush. save the stainless for real crusty bores. The stainless is harder and you could get some scratches. Take a look on surplusrifle.com and compare your extractor to the one in the disassy guide. It could be worn. I recently broke a extractor when pulling the bolt head out so be careful. It took awhile to find a replacement. Also what ammo are you using?
eagle7		#5	[-]
Posts: 3928 (05/04/09 02:23 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Are you feeding from a clip, or are you single shot loading directly into the chamber?
continental		#6	[-]
Posts: 3 (05/04/09 05:29 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks for the feedback: I wasn't thinking about headspacing on the rim...good suggetsion to try more polishing. I tried 1938 & 1939 german cartridges with the same results. All my attempts have been with a fully charged clip. The extractor looks sharp and not overly worn but I will look into that further.
junkbug		#7	[-]
Posts: 36 (05/08/09 10:54 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I had one with the same problem. Polishing the chamber helped some, but did not eliminate the problem, at least with surplus ammo. The solution of least resistance is to reload for it, and concoct your loads on the mild side. I bet that will help a lot. Surplus ammo is loaded hot, and its expensive. If you just don't want to get into reloading, try buying a box of Hornady factory soft point ammo, and see if that is any better. Other than really polishing out the chamber, there are few other real solutions. Headspace seldom seems to be an issue with these carbines, and this cartridge. If polishing and reloading don't help, you may be money ahead just looking for another M95 carbine, with a better chamber and bore. They are plentiful now, and finding a nice one is less expensive than any gunsmithing, at least in my area.
scooter222		#8	[-]
Posts: 5042 (05/08/09 04:38 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hey I just noticed that you bought it at Gander Mountain. Their guns come with a guarantee that they had a gunsmith look at it. I just picked up a M38 Swede and it came with a folder and warranty. I'd take it back if the chambers bad and insist on at least store credit.
continental		#9	[-]
Posts: 4 (05/14/09 08:54 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	just a quck update .... more reaming and polishing with a chamber bruh did not help...this M95 is still a single shot requiring a rod to poke out the fired case. I will find some stiffer brushes and get back to it sometime in the next few weeks. scooter222 - I've had this for a year now as it took me 3-5 months to find ammo. I doubt they will give me credit and i really would like to get it running properly. thanks for all the suggestions.
m1 talker		#10	[-]
Posts: 6723 (05/14/09 09:21 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	My vote is in that the extractor needs to be looked at, and maybe even replaced. If there is any crud under it, or its spring tension is gone, or if its face is beveled any, that could cause it to slip over the rim when the bolt was pulled back, leaving the fired round still in the chamber. Curt
eagle7		#11	[-]
Posts: 3938 (05/14/09 09:28 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Heck, buy another M95 and swap bolts.....that will identify an extractor problem.
riceone	Stuck Case	#12	[-]
Posts: 538 (07/05/09 09:55 PM) Host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I would use some fine emery paper on a wooden dowel and spin and polish. The brush is not smooting it up like sandpaper will. Unless you really get agressive with coarse paper you are not going to enlarge the chamber enought to matter. Just my .02 cents. riceone ... "Before I begin, I'd like to apologize to everyone I'm about to offend..."
continental		#13	[-]
Posts: 5 (07/12/09 11:23 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks to everyone. I have given up on this rifle and sold it to a friend/tinker/gunsmith who believes he can correct the problem.

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