Serial numbers on 1909 Peruvian bolts

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returnspring	Serial numbers on 1909 Peruvian bolts	Lead	[-]
Posts: 172 (05/16/09 06:53 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I looked at a nice 1909 Peruvian yesterday that had all matching numbers. The serial on the bolt gave me some reason to think it had been restamped because the font size was smaller than the numbers on the safety and bolt shroud. What do you think? Did I just screw up? I've been looking for an excellent/matching example for a few years now and getting discouraged. CJF
Vladymere gr		#1	[-]
Posts: 2496 (05/17/09 06:01 PM) Forum Co-host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The serial numbers on my receiver, mismatched bolt and bolt safety lever are all the same font type and size. Vlad Looking for Gew.88 based sporting rifles Looking for a Lyman #22 sight for the Gew.88/Mannlicher
returnspring		#2	[-]
Posts: 173 (05/17/09 09:16 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks Vlad. I'd really wanted that one to work out, but paying full $ for a renumbered item wasn't right. Do you know if the firing pins are serialized on this model?
ADCC		#3	[-]
Posts: 166 (05/18/09 05:25 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Will have to check, but as far as I recall they use the same font, although those stamped as they are in the in the crammed space of the bolt would seem a little bit different. Good luck in your search of an all-matching. Very hard to find one unless it was a very lucky or non-commissioned rifle, since local standard practice when soldiers were in practice outside the barracks was to store the guns after each man had removed the bolt and stored it in another locked container (My grandad told me that he slept in his tent with his bolt under the pillow); in the morning and during the formation rush, no one cared to match bolt & rifle. Local armorers repairing or servicing them also didn't care about matching, neither soldiers cleaning the guns after a live fire session, so finding an all-match 1909 minus bolt (And cleaning rod) is not impossible but very odd. Very few 1909s were supplied with replacement bolts (All or sometimes just the main body), usually FN-made and re-matched to the guns. Those have the classic Belgian stamps somewhere, usually the "A" inside a square; font was different too. Last Edited By: ADCC 05/18/09 05:28 PM. Edited 1 times.
vonmazur		#4	[-]
Posts: 344 (09/04/09 02:04 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Gentlemen: I have 2 modelo 1909 rifles, one matches, the other does not. Both have the same style of stamping of the numbers, including the safety and firing pin retainer-sear. The font is the same on both, and is a little different from the receiver...The bolts were not stamped by the same guys as the receivers...IIRC, they used a different type of stamping device, the one for the barrels and receivers was a rotary tool with drums, the bolts and small parts were stamped by hand. I cannot remember where I saw this, as it was in the 1980's...before the net!! I do recall a chart with the indications of which way to hold the die, according to the number being stamped....the Germans were like that.. Dale " If those little sweethearts won't face German bullets, by God they'll face French ones!" General Moreau in "Paths of Glory"