berdan primers???

0 Kudo

Forum Jump

Author	Comment
PAgunman	berdan primers???	Lead	[-]
Posts: 10 (05/20/09 12:59 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Any idea where to get berdan primers?
Skeyed		#1	[-]
Posts: 4077 (05/20/09 11:58 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Never understood why the purpose of loading Berden Primed brass. As I under stand there are several different sizes, even in the Large rifle size. Boxer has only two sizes Large and small. One of each for rifles and pistols. As in, Large Rifle, Small rifle. Large pistol small pistol. Plus the different effort removing the spent primer. JMHO.skd
doug henry		#2	[-]
Posts: 1839 (05/21/09 09:23 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Berdan Primers are available in Europe but uncommon in the US. I remember a few times over the last several years when some Berdan were available although in limited quantities and a couple of attempts by re loaders to bulk purchase from manufacturers. In general they are scarce and I have never seen them listed for sale.
shotout		#3	[-]
Posts: 5 (05/29/09 10:01 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	AKA SKEYED. Hard to find, and having to rig equipment to remove the spent ones. I guess it I had several thousand and could get the primers, might look at it different. Boxer's are too plentiful and simple to remove. just me. shotout
doug henry		#4	[-]
Posts: 1844 (05/29/09 11:28 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	As an interesting side note. Hiram Berdan of New York invented the first 'Berdan' primers which became predominate in Europe. Edward M. Boxer, of the Royal Arsenal, Woolwich, England invented the 'Boxer' primer which became predominate in the USA. One article I read indicated reloading cartridges was common in the early west with simple reloading tools which the Boxer was easiest to replace. Europe was less inclined to reload and the Berdan primers were less expensive. At least they were less expensive at one time.
shotout		#5	[-]
Posts: 6 (05/30/09 12:29 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	That story is in at least one maybe two of my loading manuals. Strange how things take a turn around. dd
akitaholic		#6	[-]
Posts: 717 (05/30/09 12:21 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Any explanation why Berdans come in so many sizes while we do OK with just large and small? Maybe Doc AV knows. 'holic
eli griggs		#7	[-]
Posts: 660 (05/30/09 08:45 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	"Any explanation why Berdans come in so many sizes while we do OK with just large and small" The UNITED States - Europe Cheers "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ "In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity". - Albert Einstein WANTED - Lee Loaders - 6.5 Swede Mauser, 7.5 Swiss, 7.62x39, 7.62x54r, .303 Brit WANTED- Turkey and Goose feathers for fletching arrows
doug henry		#8	[-]
Posts: 1845 (06/01/09 01:35 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I could not find history of why there are so many sizes of Berdan primers but I do remember discussions and speculation on the subject. In Europe ammunition was developed primarily for Military use and that reloading was not a consideration. Primers and cartridges were developed for case style and powder type with generous margins for harsh environmental use. One speculation might be the .303, are the primers larger because of the case width or the use of BP or Cordite? Then why does the 7.62x54R use the smaller primer? Certainly the USA went to Boxer primers due to the need to reload in remote areas. The US Military followed the Boxer use in the ammunition industry even though they never intended to and do not reload.
John Doe		#9	[-]
Posts: 18 (06/17/09 01:17 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	In America we have (had?) always been from to use firearms and to reload. In Europe the governments seem to see their citizens as subjects not to be trusted with firearms. It would seem that if the peasants could reload spent casings into live ammunition then they might have the ability to become a threat to the government powers. Just a thought from my slightly paranoid, very cynical mind.

<< Previous Topic Next Topic >>

Add Reply

C&R Dealer Links	General Related Links
The Member's Map	The Gun Control Forum

Yuku free message boards

Handloading

berdan primers???

berdan primers???

Quick Reply