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Posts: 109 (06/07/09 10:37 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None A question for all of you out there in collectorland. Although I haven't signed in for a while I used to spend a good deal of time here reading and learning when I first started my collecting and I found that if anyone had answers they could always be found here. So here's the situation. My Mom-in-law wants to give me the gun....... literally!! I don't know much about it but a .22 rifle with case. The problem is she is in Wisconsin and I am a resident of Kalifornia. I have a class 3 license but to avoid local problems I want her to send it to my son in Arizona who also has a class 3 license and his very own concealed carry permit. Anyone see any problems if I send her a box I got from CMP and have her UPS or Fed Ex it to my son IE a Wisconsin to Arizona shipment? thanks to everyone in advance as I might not be able to get back on this site for a couple days. Mike Life Member NRA California Rifle and Pistol Association The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously. Hubert Humphery
eli griggs		#1	[-]
Posts: 674 (06/08/09 12:26 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It might be cheaper to just do a straight out FFL transfer though a gun shop or club. Certainly less questions about legalities. Eli "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~ Thomas Jefferson ~ "In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity". - Albert Einstein WANTED - Lee Loaders - 6.5 Swede Mauser, 7.5 Swiss, 7.62x39, 7.62x54r, .303 Brit WANTED- Turkey and Goose feathers for fletching arrows
EOD E8		#2	[-]
Posts: 72 (06/08/09 09:56 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Unless the rifle is a C&R firearm she can't ship it to your son. It must go to a dealer. If it's a C&R and over 50 years old, she can ship directly to you.
VIS35		#3	[-]
Posts: 3222 (06/08/09 10:22 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	EOD E8 is spot on correct. As a holder of a 03 Collector of Curio and Relics license, look on the back of your license, ATF F 8A (5310.17) (7-97). Note the warning "No privileges are granted by this license for firearms NOT classified as curios or relics)". Also a CCW permit has nothing to do with or have force pertaining to the interstate shipping of firearms. Francis VIS aka Blind Hog "Even a Blind Hog sometimes finds an acorn"
Mountain Doctor		#4	[-]
Posts: 3503 (06/09/09 12:31 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	When buying a C and R in the PRK they can wave the assinine 'cool down period' but rarely do.
m1 talker		#5	[-]
Posts: 6800 (06/09/09 12:58 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The biggest problem I have had with having the C&R License, is that a lot of people, including dealers and gun shops tend to ignore it. I think they know that you can order the item for a lot less than what they will sell an equivalent item to you for, so in a sense, the license is in competition with them. Big 5, back when they had milsurps was that way. And it does no good to try explaining it to them. They have their policies that they adhere to. I finally got tired of going thru it time and time again, so I quit using the license at those places and went ahead and filled out the 4473 form for them while they made the telephone call. Curt
Ed Novak		#6	[-]
Posts: 1973 (06/10/09 12:18 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	If the rifle meets C&R rules, will its transfer through your son, to you, constitute a "straw man" deal? If the rifle is C&R qualified, your M-I-L can ship anywhere she likes and if shipped to your son and he has an 03 license, all is fine but a "turn-around" transfer to you may be seen as a "straw man" deal; much the same as if your son ordered a C&R firearm on your behalf. ? NRA Endowment member LECS #2
mkgr22		#7	[-]
Posts: 195 (06/10/09 09:26 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ed Novak wrote: If the rifle meets C&R rules, will its transfer through your son, to you, constitute a "straw man" deal? If the rifle is C&R qualified, your M-I-L can ship anywhere she likes and if shipped to your son and he has an 03 license, all is fine but a "turn-around" transfer to you may be seen as a "straw man" deal; much the same as if your son ordered a C&R firearm on your behalf. ? Straw purchase rules don't apply to family gifts, unless the son knew that the father was prohibited from owning the firearm.
EOD E8		#8	[-]
Posts: 73 (06/10/09 10:50 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Mountain Doctor wrote: When buying a C and R in the PRK they can wave the assinine 'cool down period' but rarely do. Waiting period and dealer transfer exemptions for C&R FFL holders are clearly spelt out in the Penal Code and are not rare at all.