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LeviZmkII |
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Im trying to find a photo of a distant ancestor (5 generations back) at one time there was a civil war photo of him in his uniform. Does anyone know if these
were paid by gov or private or if there is any way I can find the negative to request it..i.e. would a gov dept be in position of it?
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musketshooter |
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You are out of luck. The Govt did not have the photos taken. They were done at private photo shops and paid for by the soldiers. Most photos were tin-type and
do not have negatives.
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m1 talker |
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Indeed! Why would the government want pictures of soldiers? The only pictures the Army or any other branch of service are going to take of a soldier or sailor
is the picture on their ID card.
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Viclav |
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Not even tintype. At the time of the Civil War, the photo process was glass negative. Long gone... many were used as greenhouse panes, their images fading to
oblivion.
Victor "Always carry a firearm east of Aldgate, Watson." |
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eli griggs |
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You might try historical societies to see if they have any unit pictures or other resources, as well as major Libraries and their collections, such as the
Library of Congress.
It will help out if you know what county he served with and the official unit designation is important too. Units from both sides continued to gather for reunions for many years and their families were often a big part of that experience. There are also books like this out there: http://nc-historical-publ...ores.yahoo.net/2640.html Good luck, Eli
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Alibi |
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Photo imaging during the Civil war was done by photographers that made a profession of it. Studios in large cities were set up and some photographers took
their equipment on the road to the camps and captured images of soldiers for a price that depended on the process used. The soldiers seem to have had their
images taken more for commeration of military service than for identification. These images were usually sent home and remained in the family until very often
loss of identification and lack of interest in geneology the decendents sold the image. The vast majority of the images of Civil War soldiers the person in the
image is unidentified or misidentified.
So the image you saw or know to have existed was most likely with a relative. That is likely your only resource for obtaining an image of your relative unless he was a very prominent politician, military leader, businessman or government official. There are several resources for obtaining images of well known people including the National Archives, Library of Congress and the Smithsonian Institution to name a few. The most popular and relatively inexpensive images were Ambrotypes, Deguerrotypes, Ferro types (commonly called tin types) and Albumn print process used for Carte de Visites. Ambrotypes and Deguerrotypes were both processes in which clear glass plates were wet coated with chemicals and then promptly processed and the final image was etched into the surface of the glass. These processes produce one image that could not be replicated then. Ferro types were also a wet plate process using chemically treated sheet steel and the final image is reversed because the front of the plate is exposed to the lens. Albumn paper printing was accomplished using a glass negative to produce a positive image on a relatively stable paper that was usually pasted to a thin card stock about the size of a calling card. The glass negative could be re-used, so often people would have a number of these images printed and would present them as mementos and sometimes use them much in the same way as business cards or "Cartes de Visite" (Visiting cards). Glass is of course fragile and the glass negatives used to make albumn prints were rarely preserved. |
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nothernug |
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Weelll ACT-u-ally... There is a branch of the Gov't, I forget which, that maintains CW soldier photos. I got a copy of a fellow I had been researching that
way.
Unfortunately, I don't recall the source at the moment and don't have time to look it up right now. I'll look it up later. Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie until you can find a rock. Will Rogers |
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T OHeir |
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"...the picture on their ID card..." Don't think photo ID cards were used. Photography was fairly new technology in the 1860's.
Spelling and grammar count!
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cujo |
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Photo ID? No best bet for identification during the time was others in the unit that knew him. Sometimes before a battle they wrote their name and personal
info on a bit of paper and placed in a pocket or pinned to their uniform. On rare occasion they are rare but there were sometimes an id disk like a dog tag
that they wore around their neck again these were very rare. Best bet would be to try to identify the unit he fought in and go from there.
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nothernug |
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I forgot about this topic. I will try and find that govt site that has pictures.
This govt agency has collected photos of soldiers. How and why they did this, I don't know exactly. More when/if I find the site. But these photos were purely private purchase. As for your family member's photo? The first best bet is that it is in the possession of a family member. Stick a note in your Christmas cards. The next most likely location is in a shoe box with all those other nameless images in flea markets and trade shows. Those boxes are always so sad to me. Other possibilities are library and museum collections. As soldier I have been researching became politically active. When he passed away, many of his personal papers- and photos- were deposited with a university library archive. Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie until you can find a rock. Will Rogers |
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nothernug |
FOUND IT!!! | ||
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I found the CW (& other era) photo storage site I was referring to. See below.
LeviZmkII Understand, the liklihood of finding your ancestor's photo here, or in any single collection, is not good. But it's the best I can offer. For all though, this is an important research tool. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now since I last used it, they have greatly modified their system. I'm not exactly sure how to search their photo collection and have no more time this morning to look. But this is what I was referring to... United States Army Heritage and Education Center (AHEC), The center aims to preserve and interpret the heritage of the U.S. Army. ... including the largest American Civil War photograph collection in the world. From Wikepedia; The United States Army Heritage and Education Center (AHEC), in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, is the U.S. Army's primary historical research facility. Formed in 1999, the center consists of the Military History Institute (MHI), the Army Heritage Museum (AHM), the U.S. Army Conservation Center, and a visitor services staff. The Army Heritage and Education Center is part of the U.S. Army War College, but has its own 56-acre (230,000 m2) campus on Carlisle Barracks. Here's a link to their collection on line... http://www.ahco.army.mil/site/index.jsp Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie until you can find a rock. Will Rogers |
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