2. Military Remington Rolling Blocks any caliber (but especially 7x57)
3. CETMEs (reals ones with no connection to Century Arms)
4. Trapdoor Springfields
5. U.S. Krags
6. Yes of course as all would agree, M-14s

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1. Webleys of any mark
2. Military Remington Rolling Blocks any caliber (but especially 7x57) 3. CETMEs (reals ones with no connection to Century Arms) 4. Trapdoor Springfields 5. U.S. Krags 6. Yes of course as all would agree, M-14s |
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What we really need is a smart person to build a time machine.That way,we can give him our order,some cash,and our past firearm mistakes are corrected.To some
extent.
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Boyes Rifle Polish Squeeze-bore anti-tank M98 |
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I regret passing on buying a Luger when AIM brought some in from former East Germany a few years back. I had a couple of friends that got some very nice
shooters from that bunch. Would have liked to have filled up a collection of minty Swedes(one of each year of manufacture) when they first came in at low
prices. Nice to dream a little.
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Bring back all the US surplus stuff that was actually sold as "surplus"! Back in the "day", 1863 Springfield muckets for $5, Krags and
1917's, 1903's for not much more......1917 revolvers for cheap.....when did surplus turn into "Oh my God it's collectible" so now a Civil
War era musket commands $1,000+? Even Rogers and Spencer percussion revolvers were sold in unissued condition and no one had a use for them so they went for
dollars instead of thousands.
All the European Service revolvers that were so undesirable they were sold in boxes at gunshows with a "any for $3" sign.........before my time but I have heard the "seasoned" shooters talk about it........Bodeo revolvers being made ito lamps and all the nice Swedish Nagant revolvers that were turned into hack job basement .22 conversions......didn't they know you can shoot .32 Longs out of these!!! French 1892's were "oddball French revolvers" and basically couldn't be given away, now they go for $1,000 if they are un-refurbed and have a holster. Try finding a Norwegian Nagant for below $500! Now I have to give $350+ for a refurbed Bodeo and would have to pay twice that for a nice French 1873 Ordnance revolver (which I never did, I sold my "beater" a little while ago) I too lusted after a Norwegian 30-06 K98, but the dealer was shady so I abandoned the deal........never saw another one since. Even the old Swiss stuff like Vetterli's and 1889 and 1911 straight pulls used to be cheap because there was no ammo for them and no one bothered to load for these rifles. The only deals these days are on the refurbed Com-Bloc stuff, so buy your fill of Mosin Nagants, Nagant revolvers, Romanian Tokarevs, etc. NOW before the day comes in 5 years when it's like "Where's all the cheap Com Bloc stuff at?" The "rounds of the moment" seems to be 7.62 Tokarev and 5.45x39, lots of it is coming in and at $100 per 1,200 round case, it's the cheapest pistol and rifle fodder around. It's like the 8mm Mauser used to be, dirt cheap and available. Now the prices for even surplus 8mm 50's Yugo has doubled and the same for 7.62x54r. Now if someone would make a semi-auto carbine in 7.62x25 and a bolt gun in 5.45x39!
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It would be very hard to bring back all that surplus, as it simply does not exist any more, anywhere in the world. Yes, there may be small pockets of it stored
in some stash in some foreign country, but it will never be like it used to be. And for the prices that some milsurps used to sell for, well think about it a
bit. If you study the value of the dollar back then versus today, it is actually pretty much the same, as today, and in some cases even cheaper today.
When I entered the work force in the early 1960's, the minimum wage was $1.25 per hour, and for us kids bucking hay bales and such, that is what we were paid. That meant ten bucks a day gross income if you worked an eight hour day. Then take out witholding taxes and such and what did that leave you with at the end of a week in your paycheck? I had to work an entire week just to earn money to afford a single milsurp rifle after some of the money went for food while at work, and such. How many hours do you have to work today to buy a milsurp rifle? See what I mean? We seem to be enamored with the "good old days", but in my opinion, they were not that good at all and I would sure hate to have to relive them. Curt |
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years ago i could have bought a mp40"s for $1400 and sten's for $600 and i did not want to pay that much money .now i wish i had went to the bank for
a huge loan.
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I think the prices for stuff was still lower back in the 60's and maybe more recently.........I don't think people would have been buying 1917 Enfields
and using them as beater rifles or truck guns if they were as relatively expensive as they are today. Also the reason so many Carcano's got turned into
sporters, I don't fault the guys back then, they were only $5 Italian rifles then.
Some stuff was rarer then than now, like even Mosins......they weren't really cheap and numerous until fairly recently. I don't care what anyone says, a common refurb 91/30 will NEVER be rare, too many of them are already here for that to ever happen. Maybe in 10 years we will be giving $400 for a common refurb, as prices have climbed from $60 to $120-150 or so. |
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I think the prices for stuff was still lower back in the 60's and maybe more recently.........I don't think people would have been buying 1917 Enfields
and using them as beater rifles or truck guns if they were as relatively expensive as they are today. Also the reason so many Carcano's got turned into
sporters, I don't fault the guys back then, they were only $5 Italian rifles then.
Some stuff was rarer then than now, like even Mosins......they weren't really cheap and numerous until fairly recently. I don't care what anyone says, a common refurb 91/30 will NEVER be rare, too many of them are already here for that to ever happen. Maybe in 10 years we will be giving $400 for a common refurb, as prices have climbed from $60 to $120-150 or so. |
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Once again the only answer that I can come up with is "one of every thing" that fires a standard cartridge. I've done my muzzle loading
experience and tired of it. I'm not into pin fire or any rim fire other than .22 LR as if'n I can't shoot, I don't want it.
I'm not greedy, I just like to compare and play. Eric
"We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately."
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Another vote for G/K 43. The Russians have plenty but with the collapse of the dollar I think we can kiss getting them imported at a decent price goodbye
(years ago the Russians were holding out for approx. $800 ea, you could imagine how many 2009 dollars it'd take today).
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Well let's see? G-43 would be up there! Oh I would like a second shot at the full auto BAR for $900 that I passed on a few years ago! Other than that I am
more than happy with what I have and an occasional Finn every once in awhile. Bill
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Be careful what you wish for, you might get it. Over 30 years ago I had a G-43. It had what could be charitably described as an excess of operating power; the
fired cases went into near earth orbit. Also every time I fired the contraption, the spring washer that holds something ( I forget what) on the back of the
receiver, would come flying off into the weeds. I finally sold it.
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stantheman1986 |
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I never had the desire for much of the semi auto's, call me old fashioned but I'm more of a bolt gun guy. I have a couple SKS's and an AK clone and
hardly shoot them. I love my Garands though, but strangely when I come into any supply of 30-06 I usually opt to bring out one of my 03's.
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'95 Springfield for starters. Who knows what I'm talking about?
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