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Ipsd	1944 M43 Newbie	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1 (06/19/09 03:21 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Hello everyone! I'm new to Mauser rifles and just recently got this Spanish one at a Yard sale for $60. Took it home cleaned it up and looks real nice. 7.92 cal. Here are some pics The bolt does not match though I did break it all down and clean the nasty out of it. Has a pretty nice bore for a 1944 anything. I did plug and soak the barrel for two days in PB blaster that got ton of crud out. Wow I now have real rifling not traces of it. I do have a few more pics of my cleaning and what I found inside on my photobucket here. http://s152.photobucket.c...Stuff/Guns/M43%20mauser/ I do have a few questions. I know the bolt doesn't match so Headspace checking is a must. So I found a not so local place that said they would do it for $10. I just took it there today. He checked it told me it was close to being out of spec. Told me to take it out and test fire it on some sand bags with a sting to pull the trigger. Then he told me he only had the NO GO gauge and it would almost close. He also told me that they made these in more than one degree of Chambering and if his gauge was for a 28* and this was a 40* that would throw off the readings he got from the NO GO gauge. Then he chraged me $20. I just paid it and left. Before I did he was telling me If I could find another bolt that might just solve my problems. Also it would make a really nice sporter. Does anyone know the degree of Chambering on these M43's Made in Fabrica De Armas in 1944? Also Isn't there a Feild gauge also that can tell us more about the headspace? Stopped at another shop and found some S&B 8x57JS only for barrels with S caliber bore 7,89mm grovve 8,20mm is this the right amunition? The guy at the place was 8x57 is 8x57 German,Jap,Mexican, Bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla. So I'm not to sure he is kinda an ACEHOLEISH like at times. Calls Ak's Gook guns and the the like. Anyhow just want to find out as much as posible about this rifle. Just found this place today so bare with me. Also that is not paint that is just Crayon to highlight the markings for the pics. Thanks for looking Stuckman Last Edited By: Ipsd 06/19/09 03:42 PM. Edited 1 time.
Ipsd		#1	[-]
Posts: 2 (06/20/09 01:37 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Upon further research I found that it would either be 19* or 20* Chamber. I also found that Yes a field gauge would really tell me if I can shoot it or not. I also found one person telling me to do a check with a snap cap or live ammo. Take the firing pin out and reassemble the bolt. From there I can take some measurements to find if it is any where close to spec. Thanks for looking all Stuckman
eagle7		#2	[-]
Posts: 3957 (06/20/09 11:24 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Mauser military rifles use 8x57 Mauser .323 diameter bullets. This is the standard 8mm Mauser round. IIRC, the only rifles that use the .318 8x57mm ammo are certain Gew 88 rifles. If the bolt nearly closes on a No Go gauge, I think we can assume that it will not close on the larger field gauge. You can shoot American commercial 8x57mm; it's loaded more mild than most of the surplus and European 8mm. After each shot inspect the brass and primer area. Keep in mind that these are military rifles that were designed to chamber rounds that might be dirty, dented, etc... I think many gunsmiths tend to be too critical and nitpicky when they check out an old military bolt action.
Vladymere gr		#3	[-]
Posts: 2503 (06/21/09 08:58 PM) Forum Co-host Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Stuckman, If your Rifle almost closes on a no go gauge but does not close on a no go gauge than it passes the no go gauge test and is with in SAAMI specifications. It should be fine to shoot. Vlad Looking for Gew.88 based sporting rifles Looking for a Lyman #22 sight for the Gew.88/Mannlicher
NC Cruffler		#4	[-]
Posts: 569 (06/24/09 07:11 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Also it would make a really nice sporter. Don't you even think it. Dave Dave Green, NRA Life Member since 1973
Ipsd		#5	[-]
Posts: 3 (06/24/09 10:04 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	NC Cruffler wrote: Also it would make a really nice sporter. Don't you even think it. Dave Thinking of that would make me sick. Hell my buddy was giving me all sorts of poop because of how clean I got the stock and hand guard. I just had to they were BLACK not that dark walnut brown. As far as plans for this rifle. I guess take it out and SAFELY shoot it and inspect the hell out of the brass and primer to find out where I'm really at. I also had another gunsmith tell me that I should take shims and and place them between the bolt and a snap cap or new ammo until it takes pressure to work the bolt. Then as long as is takes less that .010 of shim it is within spec to safely shoot. So where I'm gonna find me some shims That is a good question. I just don't wanna see my new to me toy go BOOM in a bad way. Thanks for all the looks and the comments Stuckman
beanstrung		#6	[-]
Posts: 5279 (06/26/09 12:54 AM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Nice! Looks like the stock needs a healthy dose of BLO (boiled linseed oil) or TOF (tung oil finish), other than that, don't change anything! "Almost" closing on a NoGo gage, is a "Pass" on a headspace check. If it fully closes on a NoGo gage, but will not close on a "Field" gage, it still "passes". Don't worry about the headspace. -Bean --------------------------------------------------------------------------- What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand? Joel 3:9-10 Last Edited By: beanstrung 06/26/09 12:58 AM. Edited 1 times.
padavid12		#7	[-]
Posts: 19 (07/06/09 06:30 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	You ought to be arrested. LOL. That was a steal for what you paid. Enjoy. David
akitaholic		#8	[-]
Posts: 734 (08/12/09 11:13 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ipsd, what Vlad said about headspace is correct. Almost closing on the no-go gauge means headspace is tight. A 'smith uses that gauge to be sure a new chamber isn't too short. You should be good to go. Why the first guy used that gauge is a mystery. That difference in shoulder angle is between SAAMI and original military specs. It'll make no difference in your rifle. 60 bucks at a yard sale. You must be living right.