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Kierlup	First Yugo - LOTS of pictures now.	Lead	[-]
Posts: 55 (06/24/09 01:50 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I haven't taken it apart yet, but have a couple of quick questions. This came from an estate, appears complete, and has no import marks. It has no rear handguard, appearing similar to the header picture of this forum, and the stock has no cutouts apparent for the springs of a handguard. Is that proper, or am I missing a rear handguard? The stock is also undamaged in any way. All the numbers match, serial # E 9XX, on the stock, bolt, receiver, and barrel, but in very small font, the numbers on the sight, and sight base are different. Also, there is a solid band that fits closely over the front H-band and which locks into place. It came with a sling installed, and judging by its appearance, it is original to the rifle, and far from new. I'll tear this down tonight, but at this point, from what I've seen, it appears to have all milled parts. This is my first milsurp other than British arms, and appears very well made, excellent bore, and I hope it shoots well. I've no idea what they are worth, paid just under $100 Can. for it. Any assistance in determining age from the serial # ? Thanks for the assistance. Peter After more reading, I'm thinking this may be a re-worked K98, and if so, it's in really nice shape. I'll find out more with the tear-down. Last Edited By: Kierlup 07/03/09 04:01 PM. Edited 3 times.
gpschmidt		#1	[-]
Posts: 638 (06/24/09 02:02 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Can you provide a picture? Greg
Kierlup		#2	[-]
Posts: 56 (06/24/09 10:21 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Definitely a K98 re-work, once apart. All forged pieces, and found one complete inspector's stamp on the bolt release area of the receiver, and a bit of a wingtip in two other locations. And the laminate stock should have told me, but I didn't realize that until I did more reading, as I knew absolutely nothing of Mausers when I got this. I take it that it has little significance as a collector's piece, of either German or Yugo pieces, so I hope it shoots accurately. It has a poor job done of re-browning the barrel, so I could have that properly re-blued, and replace the military trigger with the three miles of creep. I'll get some pictures up soon, as it is still in very nice condition for a rifle of that age. Thanks for all the information posted. It was a great help. Peter
m1 talker		#3	[-]
Posts: 6845 (06/25/09 11:12 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I would be dead set against rebluing any milsurp, as that is a permanent modification and we are not allowed to discuss those sorts of things here. I actually wonder if it was blued to begin with? A lot of rifles were parkerized or simply coated with patina due to their age and chemicals that have been put on them to clean them over the years. That is all part of the rifle's history and should be kept intact. I also hear you on the creepy trigger. You can go with aftermarket triggers as long as there is no modifying the rifle to install it, and then hang on to the old parts so they can be reinstalled later. But to me, that is part of the fun of having many rifles, as you get to understand the quirks each one may have. Curt
Kierlup		#4	[-]
Posts: 58 (06/26/09 09:06 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I share your feelings about modifying milsurps, particularly where they haven't been previously bubba'd. I've picked up a couple of sportered Enfields and returned them to full military spec. I suspect this K98 has been re-barreled, as there is such an obvious difference between the finish on the barrel, and all the other metallic parts. If it turns out to shoot well, then I might consider scoping it, but only with one of the mounts that does not require drilling and tapping. It has been a steep learning curve, since this dropped into my lap. Comments and advice appreciated. Peter
gpschmidt		#5	[-]
Posts: 641 (06/26/09 12:31 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	One of my K98s is a Yugo rework. Because it's scrubbed and was mounted on a Yugo stock, it's hard to tell original age. There was a tag on the rifle when I bought it that stated it was a Mauser Oberndorf, but I can't verify that. Based on it's mostly milled parts, I'd guess it's pre-war. Has about 40% bluing left. I replaced the Yugo stock with a German, flat butt stock to give it more of it's original appearance. The Yugo reworks are generally nicer rifles that the Russian captures. The Yugoslavians typically just repaired K98s, and did not completely tear them down like the Russians. Because of that, the rifles are more original if you will, then the R/C rifles. If there's a drawback, Yugo captures are almost always found close to totally scrubbed, so it's hard to determine their original origin. Personally, I wouldn't sweat a mis-matched barrel. If it shoots well, then chalk up to the history of your rifle. Greg
nothernug		#6	[-]
Posts: 11355 (06/26/09 07:54 PM) Forum Site Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Howdy. Just to eliminate question, here's a pic of a mod 98 though this is an RC and not a Yugo. Your solid piece over the H reflects a German late war part. The short handguard is typical of the German model 98s. Below are a couple of Yugos, a model 1924 and a 24/47. Note the full handguard. As M1talker informed you, we do not discuss permanent modifications but your drop in triggers are commonly accepted as non-permanent even though they often require a little fitting. Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie until you can find a rock. Will Rogers Last Edited By: nothernug 06/30/09 03:26 PM. Edited 1 times.
Kierlup		#7	[-]
Posts: 61 (06/30/09 02:26 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I've been bouncing back and forth from this forum to the German Mauser forum to pick up as much as I can. Given that it's scrubbed, I've no intention to try and "re-Germanize" it. As I understand it, it is more likely that the bolt, barrel, receiver, etc. may be the original match, than the RC's. I'm questioning the re-barreling idea. Why re-barrel with one from another scrubbed rifle? Given the excellent rust-free condition of the milled parts, the excellent bore seems consistent, though the colour is quite different. Would the original blueing have been removed in the process of scrubbing the barrel, and would that account for the mis-match in colour between the action, bolt, and barrel? My intention at this point is simply to clean the stock with Murphy's, and then oil, as it does not appear to be a varnish or lacquer finish. The metal parts are all in good condition with the only cleaning required looking to be old oil or lubricant which has hardened into a gummy coating. I've no re-loads or milsurp ammunition in this calibre, so I'll spring for some commercial and see what it does. Peter
Kierlup	picture added	#8	[-]
Posts: 62 (07/03/09 10:15 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Just thought I'd add a picture, while I practise the posting process. Still have some software problems but will add more from my other computer. [IMG]http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s187/kierlup/Mauser/DSC00394.jpg[/IMG] Last Edited By: Kierlup 07/03/09 10:28 AM. Edited 1 times.
Kierlup		#9	[-]
Posts: 63 (07/03/09 10:33 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	My sixteen yr. old is coming in to educate me about this process. Sorry for the multiple postings. Here's the other side for now. These two pictures are both of the rifle as received, prior to any cleaning or teardown. Last Edited By: Kierlup 07/03/09 02:51 PM. Edited 2 times.
Kierlup	Got the software figured out - more pictures	#10	[-]
Posts: 67 (07/03/09 04:00 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I don't know what the stampings shown represent. It's a well cared for rifle, and I hope will shoot well. Marked Preduzeche 44, on the left side of the action. Thanks for all the help. Peter