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boikman	Holy Mackeral !!!	Lead	[-]
Posts: 321 (01/03/09 10:12 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I think I'm dreaming...I just came home with a 1894 M91 made at the French arsenal. The stock has the usual scratches and dings...I can see a large S on the right side of the butt and possibly some numbers below it but they are very faint. On the left side of the receiver there are the two letters "JH". They are the only markings I can't identify...anyone have an idea what they indicate? Pictures not available at this time,sorry. I've had M91s dated 1899 and 1905 so this is the earliest manufacture date I've owned. This baby is going to the range Sunday.....can't wait !
BobM14		#1	[-]
Posts: 519 (01/03/09 10:33 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Wow! That's a great find! That old girl has been around the block a few times. Congrats! Armed Infidel
Draybo		#2	[-]
Posts: 1845 (01/03/09 10:59 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Cool find!! Is there an [SA] stamp on the bbl. shank? Is the rear site curved with big notches for elevation adjustment or kinda flat looking? That's an oldie for sure!! Draybo (he who always loves a great find!)
Pahtu		#3	[-]
Posts: 2183 (01/03/09 11:12 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Gulp....such a beast has never crossed my path....Congrats and pic's please.... pahtu.
SuperMosin		#4	[-]
Posts: 15 (01/03/09 11:56 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	wow! Sounds like a nice one ya got there 1894? That sure is an old one...
boikman	some more interesting details	#5	[-]
Posts: 322 (01/04/09 06:54 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I forgot to mention it was a Finn capture...trigger has been "finned" and the rear sight also has the metric scale marked on the right side. One mark I noticed today was the R on the bolt body indicating Remington manufacture. I shot it today and had great results with tight groupings out at 50 yards.Soooo kewl shooting a 115 year old piece of history. I had my M38 with me also...nothing like the sound of those carbines,and also the accompanying fireball on a overcast day.
SuperMosin		#6	[-]
Posts: 21 (01/04/09 07:35 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sounds like fun man.
Ken Shabby		#7	[-]
Posts: 341 (01/04/09 07:51 PM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Awesome, I'd love to find a Chatterault M91! They don't get much older than 1894.
zeebill		#8	[-]
Posts: 3420 (01/06/09 10:48 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Great Find! The large S on the stock is the old Finnish Civil Guard number and if referenced and readable will tell you at least where the stock served in Finland. JH I think is the Finnish armorer (person) who approved it for service. I have that on one of my Chatelleraults along with about a 5 inch counter bore too! Is that one counter bored? Even with the large counter bore after a bunch of hot cleaning and gentle care she gives a passable account of herself shooting at the range. Very hard to find one of them these days and if it weren't for WVChuck trading with me I would never have the one I enjoy the most! Congrats on a great find! Bill
slimedog		#9	[-]
Posts: 402 (01/07/09 06:48 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Great find! I'm curious what you mean by 'Finned trigger'. What did they do, you mean like the extra spring on some CG guns, or the extra pin on M39 triggers? zee -- I think the JH is something else, have seen it discussed before but can't remember. Not Finn though, if I remember right. Last Edited By: slimedog 01/07/09 06:51 PM. Edited 1 times.
zeebill		#10	[-]
Posts: 3425 (01/07/09 11:07 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Nice to see someone younger can't remember something too! I was beginning to think it was only me! Danged if I can remember what it is supposed to be? I know I have it on the one rifle too! Bill
Radom		#11	[-]
Posts: 370 (01/19/09 10:41 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Chatellerault m91 is a biggie! In any shape, but especially with all markings intact. Pics of several "Finned"mosin triggers here: http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinFeatures03.htm If memory serves (HA!) the JM marking is that of a subcontractor, I believe that made the barrel. Or, was is just the steel provider? There are several different markings that may be in that location. Last Edited By: Radom 01/19/09 10:45 PM. Edited 1 times.
boikman	finned trigger	#12	[-]
Posts: 325 (01/20/09 09:54 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	What I mean is the added spring and the smooth release as compared to the Russian pop guns....and yes,it is counter bored about 1 inch or so.
hauptspritzer		#13	[-]
Posts: 557 (01/22/09 10:08 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Congrats, I have only dreamed of finding a witness to history such as that! "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. "- Thomas Jefferson Charlie...
bonesninetytwo		#14	[-]
Posts: 231 (01/23/09 12:18 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	boikman, Check out this thread: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=88039 The JH mark, as Radom suggests, is the steel provider, a company called Jacob Holtzer. Please look at the thread I linked here and tell me if your rifle has a circle-C mark on the front top of the rear sight base, and if so, is the left side marked and lined out? Please post on the thread above. I am trying to gather more examples of Chatelleraults with left-side numbered bases.
RBR762		#15	[-]
Posts: 497 (01/26/09 02:12 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	if you can-please post some pics! Robert The true instrument of death is the human being, not what tool he chooses to complete his work.