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FFL necessary for private party transfer in CA?

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MightyMauser	FFL necessary for private party transfer in CA?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 186 (06/05/09 02:51 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None title says it all. a buddy of mine want to buy my mosin nagant rifle. ive sold a rifle or two without the C&R but that was awhile back. just dont want to do anything illegal im trying to go into law enforcement. any help?
MightyMauser		#1	[-]
Posts: 187 (06/05/09 03:10 AM) active member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	just found this at http://www.calgunlaws.com...-and-relic-firearms.html V. TRANSACTIONS EXEMPT FROM PENAL CODE SECTION 12072(d). A. TRANSFERS OF LONG GUN C&RS OVER 50 YEARS OLD BETWEEN PRIVATE PARTIES Penal Code section 12078(t)(2) exempts the infrequent transfer of rifles or shotguns that are both "curios or relics" and that are at least 50 years old from the requirements of Penal Code section 12072(d). Specifically, Section 12078 (t)(2) exemption provides that: Subdivision (d) of Section 12072 shall not apply to the infrequent³ sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm that is not a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, which is a curio or relic manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof, as defined in Section 178.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations. Thus, a rifle or shotgun (i.e. firearm that is not a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed) that is a "curio or relic" at least 50 years old may, on an infrequent basis, be transferred from a federally licensed dealer to a "licensed collector," and between private parties without going through a California licensed dealer. what you guys think? should i do it? im a poor newlywed who needs the money but would like to avoid having a criminal record.
Amendment II		#2	[-]
Posts: 1630 (06/10/09 02:38 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It's perfectly legal for you to sell a C&R rifle or shotgun that is at least 50 years old to your buddy without going through a Califonia Licensed Dealer. This exemption only applies if neither party is a California Licensed Dealer. So two unlicensed Californian's can do a cash and carry transaction of a 50 year old C&R long gun, two California C&R FFL's can do a cash and carry transaction of a 50 year old C&R long gun, and a California C&R FFL can do a cash and carry transation of a 50 year old C&R long gun with an unlicensed Californian. But if a California Licensed Dealer is selling the gun then the DROS process needs to be completed no matter if the buyer is a C&R FFL or not. If the seller is not a C&R FFL then he can only transfer the gun to another California resident. If the seller is a C&R FFL then he can transfer it to an unlicensed out of state resident as long as the transfer takes place at the California C&R FFL's licensed premises and the transaction is legal in the buyer's State too, or he can transfer it to an out of State C&R FFL at any location. __________________________ "Oro En Paz, Fierro En Guerra" um, yeah, right.

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