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Revolvo	Identify this mauser	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1 (12/04/09 02:56 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I bought this Mauser today from a local gun store and it was advertised "8mm Mauser". I have asked answers.yahoo about this gun and Mauser Central. I was told it is Argentinian or Columbian but none of the crests match up to their counterparts. As the pictures show it has been "sporterized" in a sloppy way. I got the gun for 95 bucks. Serial numbe F.06931 is underneath the circled T on the left side of the receiver. Please help
Revolvo		#1	[-]
Posts: 2 (12/04/09 12:37 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	May I add that it has a .30 stamped next to the action. I presume this is a .30-06 conversion.
Aubullet		#2	[-]
Posts: 1466 (12/04/09 04:10 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The remaining crest certianly looks like a match for a Columbian Mauser, and they did convert many to 30-06. You don't mention the manufacturer, nor show any pictures of the laft hand receiver rail, but I'd guess it is a M1929 Steyr.
Revolvo		#3	[-]
Posts: 3 (12/04/09 06:12 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I did not mention manufacturer because I have no clue, their is no stamp or emblem of any sort to indicate such a thing.
Aubullet		#4	[-]
Posts: 1468 (12/04/09 06:58 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	It seems strange that the left side rail would be scrubbed of Mfg's marks so completely when there is so much of the original crest still showing. Could possibly also be a OWEG M1912 Steyr or even a DWM M1904. A few diagnostics that might help determine what it is include: Are there any locking screws on the receiver mount bolts at either end of the trigger gaurd? Is the letter "C" stamped into all original parts including screw and bolt heads? When the rifle is not cocked, but with the bolt closed, how far does the cocking piece protrude out the bolt shroud?
Revolvo	Filling in the blanks.	#5	[-]
Posts: 4 (12/04/09 07:20 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Do these other pictures help?� I found the C underneath the gun and a weird symbol below the serial number.� Hope this helps! Last Edited By: Revolvo 12/04/09 07:22 PM. Edited 1 times.
Revolvo	Another piece of the puzzle.	#6	[-]
Posts: 5 (12/04/09 08:15 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I found the stamp to be identical to mine http://randyrick.us/Austr...earms/rmM29Colombian.htm I must have a frankenstein of a Mauser, I don't have all the markings of this Steyr-Solothrun M29 on mine.
Aubullet		#7	[-]
Posts: 1469 (12/05/09 11:09 AM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	While this may be a true Frankenmauser it is certainly a Bubbamauser, so there is no reason to assume all parts were from the same gun originally. You certainly have the remains of a Columbian crest on the receiver ring and a "C" stamped on the trigger gaurd making a 1912 Steyr short rifle (carbine with 21.5" barrel) a likely candidate for the base unit. There are also what look to be German military acceptance marks on some parts (stock recoil lug and some bolt parts) that may suggest this could have been a part of the contract that was never delivered to Columbia, but held in Germany at the start of WWI and issued to German troops for that conflict. The model was basically identical to the Gew 98, so would fit right in except for caliber which could be easily rectified, but if that's it's story, then how did it get converted to .30? Conversions to 30-06 were something that Columbia did do, during the 50's I think, so it would seem that tis rifle was dilivered afterall. What I think you should probably do is figure you have a nice solid sporterized Mauser that has had a very interesting, if somewhat dis-jointed history, and settle for that. Hope it is at least a good shooter for you !!!
Revolvo		#8	[-]
Posts: 6 (12/05/09 06:46 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks Aubullet! This history of these guns is so interesting, my Bubbamauser is no exception! I went to the gun "store" that I bought this thing from and asked them to tell me what round it takes, whether it be .30-06, 7mm or 8mm and they took an 8mm round and showed me it fit. This throws a monkey wrench in this guns story/history...
Aubullet		#9	[-]
Posts: 1472 (12/05/09 08:36 PM) Veteran member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well, that wouldn't be suprising if it were in fact a WWI era rifle that the Germans kept, instead of sending on to Columbia. But then where did the .30 marking come from??? Be sure to check headspace with the proper gauges, and bore size likewise, before any attempt to fire it. Be absolutely certain of what it is before taking any chances with it. It is of course possible that an 8mm round would fit in a 30-06 chamber if the bullet were of the shorter/deeper seated type, or even if the throat were long and or worn, so watch out. I wouldn't think the neck would fit, but stranger things can happen. I would approach trying to fire that thing about like a pair of porcupines trying to mate. Oh, and by the way, WELCOME TO THE FORUMS!!! Glad you are enjoying them and hope you visit often as there are many knowledgeable people here with much information to share! I can't even begin to tell you how much I've picked up hanging around this joint!
Revolvo		#10	[-]
Posts: 7 (12/06/09 07:33 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Aubullet wrote: Well, that wouldn't be suprising if it were in fact a WWI era rifle that the Germans kept, instead of sending on to Columbia. But then where did the .30 marking come from??? The funny thing the guy who inspected the gun said "That's a .3C." Thats where I questioned his credibility.